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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Seabass » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:32 am

Another Trump "accomplishment"! A trade war with the entire damn rest of the planet!

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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:43 am

Strayan steel and aluminium is exempt, I believe. :yes:
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Post by JimC » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:22 am

That's coz we're speshul!
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:26 am

Canada not happy it's gone from Merka's hat to Merka's door mat. I think we and the UK are vying for Merka's hat now.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:37 am

The UK is one of the worst hit countries. May's hand holding did not work.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:41 am

They're exempt. Well they will be when they are out of the Euro. Can't be much steel coming out of UK anyway, surely?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:43 am

They are not exempt. Please keep up. Steel is a primary export of the UK. One of the few it has left.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:45 am

They're obviously not exempt when they are in the EU. But Trump announced a few weeks ago that UK would be exempt (when they are out of the EU). I guess he went back on his word. Not that that would be any great surprise.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:04 am

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They're obviously not exempt when they are in the EU. But Trump announced a few weeks ago that UK would be exempt (when they are out of the EU). I guess he went back on his word. Not that that would be any great surprise.
No the UK is after Germany is hit most. Trump has hit all his allies. He thinks bullying will work poor guy.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Forty Two » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:03 pm

US President Donald Trump may actually have a point when it comes to unfair taxes on US goods coming into Europe. That is the finding of a new study by a leading German think tank. Where they differ is how to deal with it: The group urges new talks to lower tariffs across the board, instead of engaging in a tit-for-tat escalation in new taxes.

“The EU is by no means the paradise for free traders that it likes to think,” said Gabriel Felbermayr, director of the ifo Center for International Economics, a division of the Munich-based ifo Institute. The European Union actually comes off as the bigger offender when compared to the US, he added. The unweighted average EU customs duty is 5.2 percent, versus the US rate of 3.5 percent, according to ifo’s database.

So when Mr. Trump complains of “massive tariffs” he is not that far off the mark in several cases. And he does complain. “If the EU wants to further increase their already massive tariffs and barriers on US companies doing business there, we will simply apply a tax on their cars, which freely pour into the US,” the president tweeted earlier this month. “They make it impossible for our cars (and more) to sell there. Big trade imbalance!”

Cars are a particular sore point. Imports into the US are not quite free, but pay a tariff of only 2.5 percent, compared with the EU tariff of 10 percent on US car imports. Some other examples from the EU include a 17 percent tax on apples and 20 percent on grapes.
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As with all things Trump, the mainstream reporting is very skewed. Try hard to find the details on the difference in average tariff rates between the US and Europe. Europe has imposed higher tariffs on US goods (on average) than the US imposes on European goods. So, why not make them equal? Why would it be reasonable for Europe, to, for example, have a 10% tariff on automobiles from the US, while the US has a 2.5% tariff on automobiles from Europe? Is that outrageous? An affront to free trade? Or is that just too much "whattaboutism?" We can't talk about MUTUAL tariff relationships, because the only issue is what the US tariff rates are going to be....?

Let's drop the tariffs, or equalize them. Fair?

And, let's have Europe look in its own backyard - https://www.politico.eu/article/what-do ... e-problem/
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Animavore » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:20 pm

Wow! Samantha Bee apologised to Ivanka Trump!

http://www.thejournal.ie/samantha-bee-i ... 2-Jun2018/

FFS! She shouldn't have caved to that bully. When did Trump ever apologise to the women he said disgusting things about? Or sexually assaulted? Or raped?

Why is there a double-standard with Trump? He mocks handicapped people and immigrants and his fans cheer him on. Trump says he doesn't do apologies and they applaud him. Someone says something about him or his family and they lose their shit.

Trump deserves every bit of derision he gets. He's a worthless excuse of a human being who is anathema to the idea that you should leave the planet in a better state than you found it. He has ripped off people. Swindled others. He has conned millions of people into thinking he's going to make them as rich as him while he robs them blind. And he'll never apologise for any of it and probably get away with all of it.

She should've told him to stick his apology up his ass like Michelle Wolfe did. I notice she has her own Netflix show now. Fuck apologising to a weak coward like Trump. Don't sell your integrity.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Forty Two » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:53 pm

Animavore wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:20 pm
Wow! Samantha Bee apologised to Ivanka Trump!

http://www.thejournal.ie/samantha-bee-i ... 2-Jun2018/

FFS! She shouldn't have caved to that bully. When did Trump ever apologise to the women he said disgusting things about? Or sexually assaulted? Or raped?
You believe that unless Trump apologizes for something, it's o.k. for Samantha Bee to call Trump's daughter a cunt?
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:20 pm

Why is there a double-standard with Trump? He mocks handicapped people and immigrants and his fans cheer him on. Trump says he doesn't do apologies and they applaud him. Someone says something about him or his family and they lose their shit.
The only reason she apologized is because the women on CNN and MSNBC, etc., came out and said she had crossed the line. You think the media gives a shit about the fact that it was Ivanka Trump? Of course not. The outrage was because Bee supposedly hurt women in general by using the word.

Trump supporters were hypocritically outraged, of course. But, generally their outrage is ignored. The Trump supporters are just after Bee because she's typically attacking Trump. Roseanne, for example, was famous for purposefully botching the national anthem and then grabbing her crotch at the end of it - totally disrespecting the flat and the anthem. But, when she came out pro-Trump, many Trump supporters stopped caring about that. You can bet, if she came out pro-Hillary, they'd be carping about the national anthem fiasco still.
Animavore wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:20 pm

Trump deserves every bit of derision he gets. He's a worthless excuse of a human being who is anathema to the idea that you should leave the planet in a better state than you found it. He has ripped off people. Swindled others. He has conned millions of people into thinking he's going to make them as rich as him while he robs them blind. And he'll never apologise for any of it and probably get away with all of it.
Yeah! And his daughter is a cunt!
Animavore wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:20 pm

She should've told him to stick his apology up his ass like Michelle Wolfe did. I notice she has her own Netflix show now. Fuck apologising to a weak coward like Trump. Don't sell your integrity.
I agree. Apologizing for that is absurd. First off, she meant it. She planned to say it, and she said it. It was part of her act. She doesn't really think she "crossed the line." She's catering to the Democrats and the Left. They got pissed, so she apologized. If it was only the Trumpsters complaining, she'd tell them to fuck off.

Also, she's a comedian. So, she should say what she wants. Try for funny. If it doesn't work, oh well. Don't apologize for this shit. It just feeds into the feeding frenzy of outrage.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Animavore » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:00 pm

The real hypocrisy is that Trump has said worse about his own daughter when he demeaned her by saying if she wasn't his daughter he'd fuck her.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Animavore » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:04 pm

Heh! Just saw this on Facebook.

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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Seabass » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:51 pm

Sam Bee was wrong to call Ivanka a "feckless cunt". "Heartless, greedy cunt" would have been more accurate.
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