Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

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Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by Forty Two » Thu May 31, 2018 3:42 pm

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Most rape is just bad sex, she says. ‘We are told it’s one of the most violent crimes in the world – bullshit’. She added: ‘Most rape is just lazy, just careless, just insensitive. ‘Every time a man rolls over on his exhausted wife and insists on enjoying his conjugal right, he is raping her. It will never end up in a court of law. ‘Instead of thinking of rape as a spectacularly violent crime – and some rapes are – think about it as non-consensual, that is, bad sex.

Her comments caused some people to walk out of the festival in anger. Sherry Pack said: ‘Dreadful ramblings by Germaine Greer… I’m usually happy to listen to opinions different to my own but today after around 20 minutes I had to walk out.’ Greer was asked what she thought an appropriate sentence for rape would be. ‘Two hundred hours of community service would do me,’ She said. ‘I have suggested maybe a little tattoo would be a good thing, maybe an R on your hand. I’d prefer it on the cheek really.’

In March this year, Greer was accused of victim-blaming after calling alleged victims of Harvey Weinstein ‘career rapees’. She also said the #MeToo movement had not been effective: ‘I don’t actually think it’s gone too far, I don’t think its got anywhere at all. What we need is to sort out the law regarding rape and to sort out our concept of what it is. ‘It’s pointless now bringing up this stuff when most of it no action can be taken. Why wait 20 years?’

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Re: Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by cronus » Thu May 31, 2018 3:51 pm

Some words should be declared illegal. Rape is rape. Behaviour on the other hand is intricate unless it is not. :fp:
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Re: Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by mistermack » Thu May 31, 2018 4:48 pm

cronus wrote:
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Rape is rape.
Ludicrous. Every rape is different, and it's a grey area in an awful lot of cases, just like consent is very often a grey area.

"Rape is rape" is just a meaningless slogan.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 31, 2018 4:58 pm

rape is oil... even if it's not very tasty oil.
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Post by Rum » Thu May 31, 2018 5:13 pm

I met Greer once at the offices of Oz magazine in London where I was trying to sell some of my drawings - I think they bought one measly sketch as I recall. The Female Eunuch had not long been out and was a smash hit - and hugely influential at the time.She was friendly if very domineering - she more or less 'held court' and I have to say I was in awe of her. I have mostly been a fan ever since but she is now getting old, inconsistent and doddery. I think we can forgive her that.

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Re: Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by cronus » Thu May 31, 2018 5:31 pm

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I met Greer once at the offices of Oz magazine in London where I was trying to sell some of my drawings - I think they bought one measly sketch as I recall. The Female Eunuch had not long been out and was a smash hit - and hugely influential at the time.She was friendly if very domineering - she more or less 'held court' and I have to say I was in awe of her. I have mostly been a fan ever since but she is now getting old, inconsistent and doddery. I think we can forgive her that.
No, she's make peoples real lives a misery Rum. How can you forgive someone who has pushed people into suicide? Really? Emotional abuse is emotional abuse.
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Post by Rum » Thu May 31, 2018 6:26 pm

I don't know what you talking about. Greer helped the lot of women more than probably any other since the middle of the 20th century.

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Re: Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by cronus » Thu May 31, 2018 6:50 pm

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I don't know what you talking about. Greer helped the lot of women more than probably any other since the middle of the 20th century.
Saruman was a good guy one time also.

A lot of innocent kids died in the Yemen whilst she's harping on about her 'radical' feminism.


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Re: Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by Rum » Thu May 31, 2018 7:05 pm

What? Your medication has stopped working...again.

Greer wasn't as incisive as Hitchens but she does have one thing in common with that star of a human being and that is that she holds an opinion based on her thinking and not because it is popular.

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Re: Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by Tero » Thu May 31, 2018 7:15 pm

But in Sweden, all sex is rape, unless the woman decides otherwise.

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Re: Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by laklak » Thu May 31, 2018 8:10 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 4:58 pm
rape is oil... even if it's not very tasty oil.
It's a bit on the bitter side. Canola is a better choice, which is from a genetically modified (via traditional breeding methods) rapeseed plant that has less of the bitter stuff in it. It's neutral, and a good choice for deep frying because it has a high smoke point. Peanut oil is the best, IMO.
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Post by cronus » Thu May 31, 2018 8:21 pm

Second only to abortion for dividing opinion.
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Re: Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by Rum » Thu May 31, 2018 8:32 pm

cronus wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 8:21 pm
Second only to abortion for dividing opinion.
What is? What? What are you talking about?

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Re: Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by cronus » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:10 am

Rum wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 8:32 pm
cronus wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 8:21 pm
Second only to abortion for dividing opinion.
What is? What? What are you talking about?
I'm throwing a few words in. What do you think?
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Re: Germaine Greer Under Fire for Rape Comments

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:22 am

Svartalf wrote:
Thu May 31, 2018 4:58 pm
rape is oil... even if it's not very tasty oil.
:lol:

On the topic, she's been pissing feminists off for a while now (and before that, pissing non-feminists off). I do see one particularly problematic thing there, and that was the "conjugal right" of the husband to get a root out of his wife. Conjugal rights are a shared right in that respect, particularly because it involves a significant physical contact with another person.

To some extents I agree with her on the broader point about rape that she is making. I've made similar comments in the far past (before it became too risky to make them) that calling everything rape is both making a mockery of full-blown rape, and also is probably damaging to the person who was raped. Perhaps it is my cold materialist nature coming out, but even so, sex is just a more involved and fun activity than shaking hands is. To turn it into this sort of mystical experience that must be elevated and must meet certain standards otherwise you were cheated out of something, and therefore by right you were greatly psychologically harmed, actually makes it a far more potentially harming thing than by all sensible analysis should be.
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