UK Tory/gummint dramaz!

[Brian Peacock]

Well here you go have your own Bobby. The fences will be going up shortly along with the machine gun nests.

Britain's first private police force to go nationwide after success in London's wealthiest neighbourhoods

Britain’s first private police force is set to be rolled out across the nation following its success in three of London’s wealthiest neighbourhoods.

The force, called My Local Bobby, makes citizens arrests and can gather evidence to launch private prosecutions.

Clients who pay up to £200-a-month are given a direct line to a local officer, who they can also track on an iPad, and enjoy a meet-and-greet service from Tube stations or cars.

The scheme, which was set up by former Met officers David McKelvey and Tony Nash, is currently being trialled in Belgravia, Mayfair and Kensington.

Welcome to Toryworld PLC.

PoLiCe.

[Scot Dutchy]

ONS is an extension of the tory party. Any figures the tory party wants ONS supplies.

The ONS is a tool of government. The Tories firm the current government. I think that distinction is important.

It produces propaganda for the tory party. Remember those brilliant unemployment figures? Nothing to do with government but everything to do with politics and fake news.

[Rum]

No it doesn't.

[Scot Dutchy]

What does it do then? Makes up figures. It has been caught out so often it should be scrapped and just be replaced by a random numbers generator.

[Scot Dutchy]

ONS household count estimates are either wrong or useless. They may be both.

The ONS’s household count estimates deviate both from past census-verified trends in household growth and from projected household counts produced by the DCLG. This is an extremely important result. It should not be ignored. If it is correct it will almost certainly change our understanding of the UK’s housing markets. It must be verified today and if possible its methodology backdated to fit with previous data.

I am concerned that the ONS’s household estimates are not consistent with vacant homes data collected by local authorities. Given the confidence of local authorities in their empty homes datasets and the fact that these figures have been accurate in the past this suggests that the ONS’s new estimates are incorrect.

I am concerned that the ONS’s household estimates do not exist at anything less than the UK level. This makes investigating the sources of deviation from previous trends almost impossible.

I am further concerned that the deviation in the ONS’s household estimates started only after the 2011 census and after a change in the definition of a household.

In this blog post I’ll present my data. I welcome all constructive opinions. I could well be wrong.

[Rum]

What does it do then? Makes up figures. It has been caught out so often it should be scrapped and just be replaced by a random numbers generator.

A bit like you, you mean. You have a tendency to present your personal opinion as fact.

I worked directly with the Department in my last job before retirement. Part of my job was feeding them stats about education, social care and inclusion in my county and using their aggregated national figures for our performance comparisons. There were usually two sets of figures - projected or draft and then final. I always found them professional and non partisan. That was their job.

Government and party of course take figures generated by them and others and spin them the best they can to make as positive a picture as they can. Such is the way of the world.

[Scot Dutchy]

They have made so many mistakes. One of the latest:

Data errors undermine UK emphasis on services, says ONS

Findings cast into doubt critical element in Brexit negotiating strategy


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Britain’s desire to prioritise services in trade deals with the EU and elsewhere after Brexit is based on potentially serious errors in data, analysis by the Office for National Statistics showed on Monday.

The findings throw into doubt the UK’s status as a services export powerhouse, with other countries disputing the trade surplus Britain thinks it enjoys in services and the strategy of ministers as Britain prepares to leave the EU.

For the 10 countries with the largest discrepancies, British data held at the UN recorded a combined services trade surplus of $77bn in 2014, the most recent year of comparable statistics, while data from the other countries showed Britain has a services trade deficit of $39bn.

In a detailed “deep dive” into the differences between the UK and the US and Ireland, the ONS found it could explain only a small fraction of the problem and the main differences stem from using alternative sources of data in different countries.

Pretty important mistake.


Full Fact: Why official estimates about the number of student migrants staying in the UK were wrong

Another LITTLE mistake that is heavily politically charged.

[Rum]

Sure they make mistakes. I’m not in a position to comment on the one you quote.

And of course you are shifting the goalposts though because of your hatred of the UK, which is getting tiresome. You said they were a tool of the Tories. Just isn’t the case.

[Scot Dutchy]

Strange how their data justifies the tories policies. No?

The problem is ONS does not collect data. It generates it using samples and other peoples' data and then declares it to be accurate when it is obviously not true. Any extrapolation of figures is never going to be accurate so dont claim as such.

If the UK had a registration system it would be able to generate much better data especially who is actually living in the country. A census is out of date the day after it was taken.

[Rum]

Yep. Big Brother does a good census.

[Scot Dutchy]

Please dont think I am being totally anti-Brit but the bloody mess they are in is self generated. You cannot run a country without good data. Too much depends on it and ONS has simply failed whether it is cut backs and having to much demands placed on it for a first world country it is not up to scratch.

If the Brits want to live in chaos well they have got it. If you think we live under Big Brother I would invite you to see how this country is run. It is far from perfect but at least we know who lives here and everyone who eligible gets to vote.

[pErvinalia]

Strange how their data justifies the tories policies. No?

The problem is ONS does not collect data. It generates it using samples and other peoples' data and then declares it to be accurate when it is obviously not true. Any extrapolation of figures is never going to be accurate so dont claim as such.

If the UK had a registration system it would be able to generate much better data especially who is actually living in the country. A census is out of date the day after it was taken.

Better to implant RFID chips into people. Then you can know where they are every second of every day.

[Scot Dutchy]

Why are you so scared for a simple registration system? In Oz land you register all incoming immigrants but not locals? Discrimination? The benefits easily out way anything negative. What are the negatives in your mind?

[pErvinalia]

We don't suffer any negatives for not intruding on our citizens right to privacy. There's no problem that needs fixing.

All people who enter the country have to go through Immigration Control.

[Scot Dutchy]

We don't suffer any negatives for not intruding on our citizens right to privacy. There's no problem that needs fixing.

All people who enter the country have to go through Immigration Control.

You have not answered the question. Is Facebook banned in Ozland then?