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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:11 am

The trouble in America is the jury system.
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Post by Animavore » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:15 am

A jury had a man let away with probation because freaked and killed a gay person when he came on to him in Texas the other day.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:33 am

Yep. Miscarriages of justice are very common in America. In most states you need a unanimous decision which allows nobbling very easy. A survey found that 50% of jurors thought that the innocent person has to prove his innocence. :thinks:
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Post by Tero » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:37 am

I refuse to be on any jury that has to decide a death penalty case. Errors are made. Justice is not accurate enough to sentence anyone to death.

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Post by mistermack » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:46 am

Animavore wrote:
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Utterly disgusting that you call all these women liars. You remind me of Seth when he accused the people bringing crimes to priests for child abuse later in life of seeking cash.

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That post is incredibly dumb. Even for you.
If you accept allegations as true evidence, every rich person in the world is fair game.

I can see why juries get it wrong, with people like you serving. There should be a competence test.
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Post by Animavore » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:47 am

mistermack wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:46 am
Animavore wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:44 am
Utterly disgusting that you call all these women liars. You remind me of Seth when he accused the people bringing crimes to priests for child abuse later in life of seeking cash.

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That post is incredibly dumb. Even for you.
If you accept allegations as true evidence, every rich person in the world is fair game.

I can see why juries get it wrong, with people like you serving. There should be a competence test.
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Re: Cosby thought unconscious woman....

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:49 am

Tero wrote:
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I refuse to be on any jury that has to decide a death penalty case. Errors are made. Justice is not accurate enough to sentence anyone to death.
Errors are often made that is the problem and a very good reason to abolish capital punishment and join the first world countries.
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Re: Cosby thought unconscious woman....

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:50 am

mistermack wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:46 am
Animavore wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:44 am
Utterly disgusting that you call all these women liars. You remind me of Seth when he accused the people bringing crimes to priests for child abuse later in life of seeking cash.

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That post is incredibly dumb. Even for you.
If you accept allegations as true evidence, every rich person in the world is fair game.

I can see why juries get it wrong, with people like you serving. There should be a competence test.
A simple way is to scrap juries and at most use laypersons trained in court work.
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Post by Animavore » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:06 pm

A Slippery Slope: Could Bill Cosby’s Conviction Lead To A Mob Mentality Where Society Wantonly Punishes Any Serial Rapist After Decades Of Inaction?

Bill Cosby was convicted today on three counts of aggravated indecent assault, and though it seems Cosby is in fact guilty, the frenzied mass reaction from the public raises a troubling question: Could Bill Cosby’s conviction lead to a mob mentality where society wantonly punishes any serial rapist after decades of inaction?

Yes, we all want to live in a world where people are safe from sexual assault, but at the same, we must be cautious, because if we’re not careful and start punishing people like Bill Cosby every time a flood of credible victim testimonials circulate around them for years and years, we may find ourselves living in a society where our emotions get the better of us and we start jailing anybody at all just because a jury finds them guilty of rape in a trial convened years and years after the initial accusations arose.

The stark reality we as a society must consider is that Bill Cosby is going to prison simply because 50 women came forward to provide meticulous accounts of how he sexually assaulted them. If we’re not careful, we may one day find ourselves living in a world in which it only takes 49 women to come forward with credible accusations of rape to send someone to prison.

Where does this lead? Will we start throwing people in prison based on the corroborated accounts of just 10 women? Eight women? A number that low might seem ridiculous now, but if we are not wary of succumbing to mob justice, then Bill Cosby’s conviction may very well lead to a dystopian world where all it takes is just a handful of meticulously vetted rape accusations to land you in jail 14 years after the fact.

Cosby’s conviction proves that we as a society run the risk of letting mob mentality pressure us into issuing extremely belated prison sentences to anybody just because they’ve been committing premeditated sexual assault for decades. It is deeply troubling to consider that the witch hunt mentality of the #MeToo movement might be creating an environment in which any time someone is accused of rape multiple times, we make the snap decision to spin our wheels for a few decades before ultimately finding him guilty following a years-long criminal investigation and drawn-out trial process.

If we let ourselves get caught up in mass hysteria and punish a man for living out most of his life as a serial rapist, we’re setting a dangerous precedent that will allow us to remorselessly convict long-ignored rapists in the future. The American judicial system must not turn into a brazen free-for-all where anyone who wants to put a longtime rapist in jail can do so if they’re willing to spend years being ignored and vilified before enduring a protracted, nearly unsuccessful trial. The Cosby conviction is the first step on an incredibly slippery slope, and we must all be careful lest our entire country fall down it.
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Re: Cosby thought unconscious woman....

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:18 pm

If you keep on using a very flawed jury system that is where you will go: trial by Facebook.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:05 pm

The shape of things to come for America.
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Post by Animavore » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:11 pm

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:14 pm

Saves a lot of time. Just get 12 random users and bingo. :lol:
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