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Re: Donald Trump, A Track Record of Accomplishment

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Post by Hermit » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:54 pm

Forty Two wrote:Also, isn't the attack on Trump supporters considered a "group attack?" Or, no? Can we talk about witless Hillary supporters? The witless Left? Witless liberals? I thought someone was banned for that kind of thing.... :thinks:
Wrong forum. Only one person was ever banned from this one, and it wasn't for "group attack".
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:00 pm

O.k., I must be remembering it wrong. There was some rule enacted for "group attack," though, wasn't there? What is that?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Donald Trump, A Track Record of Accomplishment

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:01 pm

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Trump and Vince are both over 70 and friends, and Linda McMahon (his wife) runs the small business administration for Trump.
Trump gets to have the best of Vince because Vince can do his own stunts.

And Trump is winning :levi:
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:01 pm

They had that on ratskep or rd.net for a time.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:02 pm

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Donald Trump has threatened to withhold “billions” of dollars of US aid from countries which vote in favour of a United Nations resolution rejecting the US president’s recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

His comments came after the US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley warned member states that she will be “taking names” of countries that vote for a general assembly resolution on Thursday critical of the announcement which overturned decades of US foreign policy.

Speaking at a cabinet meeting on Wednesday, Trump said: “Let them vote against us. We’ll save a lot. We don’t care. But this isn’t like it used to be where they could vote against you and then you pay them hundreds of millions of dollars,” he said. “We’re not going to be taken advantage of any longer.”
So, Trump not wanting to give free money to countries that don't support us in the UN is bad...... :roll:
It's childish. Which pretty much sums Trump up.
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Re: Donald Trump, A Track Record of Accomplishment

Post by Forty Two » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:05 pm

Whereas Hillary and the DNC had dwarfed the RNC in fundraising for the 2016 election, the GOP crushed the DNC in 2017 --
http://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/rn ... 1189699637
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:10 pm

Is Trump winning? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42242839

Starting to see the grudging articles -- HuffPo has one too.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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pErvinalia wrote:
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Donald Trump has threatened to withhold “billions” of dollars of US aid from countries which vote in favour of a United Nations resolution rejecting the US president’s recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

His comments came after the US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley warned member states that she will be “taking names” of countries that vote for a general assembly resolution on Thursday critical of the announcement which overturned decades of US foreign policy.

Speaking at a cabinet meeting on Wednesday, Trump said: “Let them vote against us. We’ll save a lot. We don’t care. But this isn’t like it used to be where they could vote against you and then you pay them hundreds of millions of dollars,” he said. “We’re not going to be taken advantage of any longer.”
So, Trump not wanting to give free money to countries that don't support us in the UN is bad...... :roll:
It's childish. Which pretty much sums Trump up.
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Post by Animavore » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:08 pm

Despite President Scumbags pathetic little threats the U.N. votes to make the right decision on Jerusalem.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way ... ntent=2050
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Post by Rum » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:22 pm

His taken his tantrum strategy to the wrong place I fancy.

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Post by Forty Two » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:24 pm

Everything just gets blown out of proportion with the Trump derangement syndrome. So, the US wants our embassy in Jerusalem, where Israel wants its capital? Big deal?

In 1948, the UN resolution that would have made Jerusalem the capital of both Israel and a Palestinian state went through, and Israel accepted. Naturally, the Arabs rejected it, because they can't stand to have Jews around, so they invaded and got their asses beaten. Jordan had east Jerusalem and Israel had the west. They invaded again in 1967 and the Israelis took east Jerusalem from Jordan, and also the Golan Heights from Syria. Sounds good so far. So, they want their capital in Jerusalem where the UN agreed it should be in 1948, and the only reason anyone is objecting is because the Palestinians are still bitching about it. How about they agree to split the city with Israel and they can have their capital there, too?

It's time for that mess to end. The Arabs need to knowthat Israel is not going away, and the best they can do is make a reasonable deal where they get a country with a defined border and then Israel would stay in Israel and the now territories would become a new country. Either that, or have the West bank and such cede back to Jordan. Do something, for fuck's sake.
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Post by Animavore » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:37 pm

Link above appears broke now.

More on this warmongering little scumbag being rightly told to fuck off here.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/w ... google.ie/
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Post by Rum » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:40 pm

Forty Two wrote:Everything just gets blown out of proportion with the Trump derangement syndrome. So, the US wants our embassy in Jerusalem, where Israel wants its capital? Big deal?

In 1948, the UN resolution that would have made Jerusalem the capital of both Israel and a Palestinian state went through, and Israel accepted. Naturally, the Arabs rejected it, because they can't stand to have Jews around, so they invaded and got their asses beaten. Jordan had east Jerusalem and Israel had the west. They invaded again in 1967 and the Israelis took east Jerusalem from Jordan, and also the Golan Heights from Syria. Sounds good so far. So, they want their capital in Jerusalem where the UN agreed it should be in 1948, and the only reason anyone is objecting is because the Palestinians are still bitching about it. How about they agree to split the city with Israel and they can have their capital there, too?

It's time for that mess to end. The Arabs need to knowthat Israel is not going away, and the best they can do is make a reasonable deal where they get a country with a defined border and then Israel would stay in Israel and the now territories would become a new country. Either that, or have the West bank and such cede back to Jordan. Do something, for fuck's sake.
Using the term 'syndrome' is nice sleight of hand. Well it would be if he wasn't such a worrying individual. Using it suggests those who criticise Trump are the problem and not the man himself.

He may be trying to unblock the road jam but there's no real evidence that such an approach will have any impact when pretty much every Arab on the streets of every Middle Eastern city wants Israel to be gone.

The Northern Ireland approach showed that very slow incremental compromise, building trust and responding to the desire of ordinary people for the end of violence pays off in the longer term. Trump doesn't have the qualities to begin such a strategy. Instead he throws his toys out of the pram. How pathetic.

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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:58 pm

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Forty Two wrote:Everything just gets blown out of proportion with the Trump derangement syndrome. So, the US wants our embassy in Jerusalem, where Israel wants its capital? Big deal?

In 1948, the UN resolution that would have made Jerusalem the capital of both Israel and a Palestinian state went through, and Israel accepted. Naturally, the Arabs rejected it, because they can't stand to have Jews around, so they invaded and got their asses beaten. Jordan had east Jerusalem and Israel had the west. They invaded again in 1967 and the Israelis took east Jerusalem from Jordan, and also the Golan Heights from Syria. Sounds good so far. So, they want their capital in Jerusalem where the UN agreed it should be in 1948, and the only reason anyone is objecting is because the Palestinians are still bitching about it. How about they agree to split the city with Israel and they can have their capital there, too?

It's time for that mess to end. The Arabs need to knowthat Israel is not going away, and the best they can do is make a reasonable deal where they get a country with a defined border and then Israel would stay in Israel and the now territories would become a new country. Either that, or have the West bank and such cede back to Jordan. Do something, for fuck's sake.
Using the term 'syndrome' is nice sleight of hand. Well it would be if he wasn't such a worrying individual. Using it suggests those who criticise Trump are the problem and not the man himself.

He may be trying to unblock the road jam but there's no real evidence that such an approach will have any impact when pretty much every Arab on the streets of every Middle Eastern city wants Israel to be gone.

The Northern Ireland approach showed that very slow incremental compromise, building trust and responding to the desire of ordinary people for the end of violence pays off in the longer term. Trump doesn't have the qualities to begin such a strategy. Instead he throws his toys out of the pram. How pathetic.

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is real. It's the irrational rejection of ideas or policies because Trump is for it.

Back to those pesky Jews and Arabs......

Trump promised to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. He got elected, kept the promise. :doh:
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