Hillary didn't steal the nomination.......

[Tyrannical]

Hillary didn't steal the nomination.......

She bought it fair and square
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... 016-215774

The agreement—signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Elias—specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings.

This victory fund agreement, however, had been signed in August 2015, just four months after Hillary announced her candidacy and nearly a year before she officially had the nomination.

The funding arrangement with HFA and the victory fund agreement was not illegal, but it sure looked unethical

I wonder if a case could be made it was illegal

[Svartalf]

well, at least that was honestly done

[rainbow]

Who is Hillary, and why should we give a toss?

[Brian Peacock]

She's the lady that does my hair.

[pErvinalia]

Hillaryous.

[Forty Two]

It would seem likely that there is some room to suspect money laundering and violation of campaign finance laws due to the Hillary campaign controlling and raising money for its campaign through the DNC, as per Donna Brazille.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... 016-215774

http://nypost.com/2017/11/02/did-hillar ... -the-race/

The agreement, according to Brazile, “specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics and mailings.”

Asked if the primary was rigged in Clinton's favor - Elizabeth Warren says "yes." http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/ ... index.html

[Sean Hayden]

Yeah no shit.

It's like we've always said, former first lady, senator, secretary of state, ~president -- get fucking real.

But what were we supposed to do, vote for Donald Trump?

[Forty Two]

Donna Brazile says Clinton took over the Democratic National Committee in 2015 through the election. https://www.yahoo.com/news/donna-brazil ... 36945.html

The result was the forcing out of Biden out of the race, and the rigging of the primary against Bernie Sanders.

Brazile resigned as a CNN contributor in late Oct. 2016 after WikiLeaks released an email showing that she’d received advance questions before a town hall event and gave them to Clinton’s campaign. Brazile later called that move “a mistake I will forever regret.”

Representatives for Clinton, Sanders, Wasserman Schultz and former President Barack Obama did not immediately reply to HuffPost’s request for comment.

[Forty Two]

Now, you might expect that the scandalous revelation of a political campaign using opposition research that was partially obtained from a hostile foreign power during a national election would ignite shrieks of “collusion” from all patriotic citizens. After all, only last summer, when it was reported that Donald Trump Jr. met with a Kremlin-linked Russian lawyer who claimed to be in possession of damaging information about Clinton, there was widespread condemnation.

Finally, we were told, a smoking gun tied the Trump campaign to Vladimir Putin. Former Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine went as far as to suggest that the independent counsel begin investigating treason.

Treason! Trump Jr. didn’t even pay for or accept research.

The Clinton crew, on the other hand, did. They didn’t openly push the contents of the dossier — probably because they knew it was mostly fiction. Instead, Fusion GPS leaked it to their friends in the media.
The dossier ended up in the possession of most major news outlets. Many journalists relied on Fusion GPS to propel coverage. BuzzFeed even posted the entire thing for Americans to read, even though it was more than likely that its most scandalous parts were hatched by a foreign government.

The memo dominated newsrooms that were convinced Trump was a Manchurian candidate. No fake-news story came close to having this kind of impact.

Democrats in Washington are now pushing the “Honest Ads Act,” which creates a raft of new regulations and fines for websites that don’t do enough to combat fake news. Attempting to control the flow of information onto our screens is the hobbyhorse of would-be censors. But since they’re at it, when do we get a bill that fines institutional media organizations that readily embrace bogus foreign dossiers?

Because the dossier didn’t just awaken the Russia-stole-our-democracy narratives in the media. It’s just as likely that the dossier was used by Clinton’s allies in the government.

The Obama administration reportedly relied on the dossier to bolster its spying on US citizens. We know of at least one case where the information was used to justify a FISA warrant on a Trump adviser. And let’s not forget that Steele had reached an agreement to be compensated for his efforts by the FBI.

using the very standards Democrats have constructed over the past year, the Fusion GPS story is now the most tangible evidence we possess of Russian interference in the American election.

And at some point, Democrats will have to decide whether it’s wrong for a political campaign to work with foreigners when obtaining opposition research or whether it’s acceptable. We can’t have different standards for Democrats and Republicans.

Otherwise people might start to get the idea that all the histrionics over the past year weren’t really about Russian interference at all, but rather about Hillary losing an election that they assumed she’d win.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/25/why-doesnt ... s-treason/

[Brian Peacock]

You say this as if the dark arts of politics are only ever employed by the DNC. The presidential race in the US is a race for the top job in World politics - shenanigans abound across the board.

[Forty Two]

I did not say that at all.

[Brian Peacock]

I did say 'as if' there. Tell us what you're trying say if you not saying that.

[Forty Two]

I am saying what I'm trying to say. Clinton rigged the Democratic Primary, and her control over the Democratic National Committee would seem to me to indicate the possibility of illegal activity, particularly violations of federal election laws, campaign finance laws, and even money laundering, and add to that the payment to foreign nationals of a dossier created in part through information received from foreign governments.... well... that does sound worth a mention.

[pErvinalia]

Was that information in the dossier obtained illegally like it is alleged the clinton emails were?

[Forty Two]

Network news - nothing to see here! http://thehill.com/homenews/media/35858 ... evelations