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Post by Svartalf » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:33 pm

it's not within the republicans, its between the republicans and their extraneous, inadequate figurehead.
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Post by Tero » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:34 am

Boring, same old same old
Build a wall! Obama, Obamacare, Mexican rapists, America First, ban foreigners from Muslim countries, ban hispanics.
Trump administration releases hard-line immigration principles, threatening deal on 'dreamers'
Rinse, repeat.

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:42 am

But he's very liberal, actually. Most liberal president in a long time.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:22 am

And a peacemaker too. Like, the most bigliest peacemaker of all time evah. And then some.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:45 am

Peacemaker? in the Colt .45 Peacemaker meaning, maybe...
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:18 pm

Matt Latimer, a former speechwriter for Bush II, worries that Trump's ignorance of the Constitution and the legislative process could be harmful to the conservative cause in the US. Latimer appears to equate 'conservative' with 'Trump supporter' in the article, which I think is inaccurate. While Trump supporters include some traditional conservatives, I think a sizable percentage of them are far-right radicals including racists and crypto-racists. Many of them don't give a fuck about traditional conservatism, and would be happy to see Trump screw over the traditional conservative element of the Republican party.

'This Is How Donald Trump Thinks the U.S. Government Works (And why his supporters should care about it)'
Shortly after the White House released the outlines of its tax proposal, President Donald Trump railed on Twitter against Democrats who opposed it, noting that his “Tax Cut and Reform Bill” was winning “great reviews.” Except that there wasn’t an actual tax cut and reform bill pending in Congress yet for Democrats to support or oppose. The legislation hadn’t been introduced. What the White House put forward was just a framework to be filled in during the normal bargaining process on Capitol Hill.

That was after the president tweeted that the “approval process” for his tax reform package would soon begin, which, again, is not how Congress works. The House of Representatives will introduce its own bill, incorporating some of the president’s priorities, to be sure, but there will be no formal process of approval for what he’s proposed. Some of his preferred policies might not make it into the final bill at all.

It’s possible the president knew all this, that his tweets were merely inelegant phrasing, and in any event we all can get the gist of what he meant. Then again, it’s also possible, and indeed there is ample evidence, that the president of the United States really doesn’t understand the constitutional process, or even American history, much at all. This is a man, after all, who at the age of 70 seemed surprised to learn that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.

So here’s a weird question—weird since in our current political culture the answer is unknown: Does it matter whether or not the president of the United States understands how the Constitution that elected him works? Many Americans simply don’t seem to care about that question—which I suppose says a great deal about how much we expect from presidents these days. Or, conversely, how much faith our country has lost in any of our leaders that the bar has fallen so low.

Actually it really should matter to Trump’s supporters that their champion does not seem to understand how the constitutional process works—if, that is, they actually want to accomplish any of their stated goals. For anyone who still cares about such petty matters as separation of powers and representative democracy, it might be instructive to see just how far our country’s chief executive is from understanding them.

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Post by Animavore » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:40 pm

Fucking moron.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:55 pm

Guess who invented the term 'fake news'? In a cozy interview with Mike Huckabee, Trump essentially states that he did. Of course he knows that he didn't, but being the narcissistic liar that he is, he can't help himself from putting forward the idea he came up with it.

"Trump's claim to have come up with the term 'fake news' is fake news, Merriam-Webster dictionary says"
President Trump suggested that he invented the word "fake," or the term “fake news” in an interview on Saturday, prompting a weekend correction from dictionary Merriam-Webster.

“The media is really, the word, one of the greatest of all [the] terms I've come up with, is ‘fake,’” Trump told former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee on the Trinity Broadcasting Network, CNN reports. “I guess other people have used it, perhaps, over the years, but I've never noticed it. And it's a shame. And they really hurt the country. Because they take away the spirit of the country.”

Some have speculated that Trump was using “fake” as shorthand for “fake news,” one of his favorite phrases, which he’s used several times in interviews, speeches and on Twitter.

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Post by Tero » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:36 am

Jesus babies and guns didn't help him. They found out he is an asshole and pretends to be conservative
Trump's popularity is slipping in rural America: poll
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Post by Animavore » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:01 pm

Not forgetting my main and top opposition to Trump and his cabal of destructive scum.

[quote="Calilasseia";p="2588504"]Meanwhile, here's two more reasons to want the Trump administration to be brought to an end quickly, and replaced by something sane ...

[1] Scott Pruitt, the fossil fuel mole Trump planted in the EPA, has announced the scrapping of the Clean Power Plan. More on thnis here ...
As storms and wildfires besiege our nation, Donald Trump and his EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt will announce Tuesday their intention to repeal the Clean Power Plan, the critical climate action plan set in motion during the Obama administration that will save lives and money. As yet another hurricane slammed into our country, the spectacle of these robber barons sitting in the White House with their fossil fuel pals and congratulating themselves for making money while people's lives are destroyed is maddening. Repealing the Clean Power Plan is a reckless, dangerous move by an administration that continues to show that it cares more about their fossil fuel CEO cronies than the lives of thousands of people.
The article continues with this:
By throwing the program away, the Trump administration is putting the safety of our communities at risk, and making it crystal clear they have no intention of safeguarding people from the very real, immediate dangers of climate change. That’s especially distressing to hear this news as Texas, Florida, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands recover from devastating hurricanes made stronger by climate disruption, while the West recovers from unprecedented wildfires also exacerbated by a changing climate.

In addition to reducing climate-forcing carbon emissions, the Clean Power Plan also curbs other harmful pollutants that contribute to dangerous smog and soot, causing heart attacks, respiratory illnesses, and even premature deaths. The EPA previously projected that the Clean Power Plan would prevent 90,000 childhood asthma attacks, 300,000 missed work and school days, and 3,600 premature deaths annually by 2030.

By 2030, the Plan would result in annual climate benefits of $20 billion and annual health benefits of between $14 and $34 billion. It would also reduce the average consumer’s electricity bill by $85 per year and save consumers a total of $155 billion over the course of the next decade. Unfortunately, the only dollar signs that Trump and Pruitt see are profits of their friends in the dirty energy industry, whom they cater to and meet with at every chance.

No matter who is in the White House or in the EPA Administrator’s office, the EPA is legally required to limit dangerous carbon pollution from power plants, and the Clean Power Plan is a flexible, affordable way to do that.

Make no mistake, the fight against this dangerous decision is only just beginning. We have every intention of mobilizing to make our voices are heard when the EPA conducts its legally required comment period and of fighting any new rule that does not comply with the Clean Air Act in court. Join us.
Now we move onto ...

[2] The Trump administration has let the Jones Act Waiver expire, with respect to allowing foreign shipping to carry aid from US ports to Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria. As a consequence, foreign registered vessels will no longer be able to ship aid to Puerto Rico. From here:
Amid desperate calls for more supplies from the mayor of San Juan, the White House allowed the 10-day waiver it issued on September 28 for the Jones Act, to expire on Monday.

The 1920 shipping rule prohibits foreign ships from carrying cargo between U.S. ports, citing tariffs, and was the subject of outcry last month as the Trump administration raised alarm with its slow response to Hurricane Maria's devastation of Puerto Rico.

Despite President Donald Trump's statements about the strong recovery Puerto Rico has made and his declaration that Maria was not "a real catastrophe like Katrina," nearly half of the island's 3.4 million people are still without drinking water and 85 percent of the territory is without power. Only 25 of Puerto Rico's 67 hospitals have electricity. The recovery is expected to go on for months.

The death toll, which was reported as 16 for several days without being updated, has gone up to 36—and that number is expected to rise as rescue crews make it to areas of the island that have been isolated since the hurricane struck on September 20.

Critics say an indefinite lifting of the Jones Act would allow the U.S. to deliver gasoline and other supplies more quickly to speed along the recovery without imposing the high costs of American-owned ships on the island, which declared bankruptcy earlier this year.
As a consequence, the cost of aid to Puerto Rico will double overnight. But since this all adds to the profits of American shipping CEOs, which Trump obviously cares more about than the needs of dying human beings, the Trump administration is simply sitting back on its hands, letting an already perilous situation for Puerto Rico become even worse.

I don't usually advocate violence, since it tends not to be a solution, but in the light of these measures, I'll understand why an increasing number of people will be tempted to want to see Trump, and numerous other Republicans, shot. The measures above go beyond mere incompetence, and instead point toward a hideous combination of venality and homicidal malice - the fat, rich, white politicians are prepared to see large numbers of people die, just so that their rich backers can continue collecting mansions and yachts. This should be grounds for criminal prosecution in my view - prosecution on charges of criminal corruption at the very least, and corporate manslaughter the moment the coffins start being filled as a result of these policies.[/quote]
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Post by Tero » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:29 pm

Trump voter: There is no climate change. Or it’s just a couple of degrees.
Me: The entire 1-2 million years of us on the planet with our upright ancestors is contained in 5 degrees Celsius. Ice ages and all.
Trump voter: what’s Celsius? Some kind of socialist thing?

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Post by Tero » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:45 pm

It was 102 when he was 60. Been going down since.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:07 am

Tero wrote:Trump voter: There is no climate change. Or it’s just a couple of degrees.
Me: The entire 1-2 million years of us on the planet with our upright ancestors is contained in 5 degrees Celsius. Ice ages and all.
Trump voter: what’s Celsius? Some kind of socialist thing?
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I heard a short news report about our arch conservative ex PM, Tony Abbott, who was giving a speech in London to presumably a bunch of fellow climate change deniers. He was going on about how it's cold, not heat, that's the biggest killer of humans, so more heat would be good. What a fucking imbecile. Imagine someone nearly as dumb as Donald Trump and not being an American, and the leader of a country. Incredible.
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Post by Tero » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:33 pm

Trump to visit DMZ and wave fist at N Korea
North Korea, however, views the drills as highly provocative, partly due to bitter memories of US bombing raids during the Korean war.

The White House sent a team of working-level officials to South Korea late last month to view possible sites for inclusion in Trump’s itinerary, Yonhap said, citing an unnamed South Korean defence source.

Trump was expected to send a strong message to North Korea, either verbally or “kinetically”, during his first trip to the peninsula as president, the source was quoted as saying. “[He] will likely do something like that and his aides are making the relevant preparations.”

If the visit goes ahead, Trump would probably spend time at the Panmunjom truce village and an observation post inside the DMZ, the source said. The White House has not commented on the reports.
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