Las Vegas Music Festival Massacre

[normal]

Unfortunately I have had to add Galaxian to my ignore list. I can handle stupid, I can handle offensive, but offensive stupidity is an adjective too far. Please stop quoting them where possible, cheers.

Galaxian has been dodging questions like a cowboy at a country music festival.

Too soon?

Sadly they seem to have missed him.

Maybe the questions were too weak and came from too great a distance?

[Clinton Huxley]

If so, where are the broken 4th floor windows?

The Hollow-Earth dwelling Nazi Lizard-men contracted by the Illuminati to conduct the massacre to further the New World Order because reasons, must have fired the same quantum-tunneling bullets that the Greys use for hunting Bigfoot.

[Galaxian]

"Such firearms have a maximum range of 400m." "At half that distance the effectiveness (penetration through clothes into flesh) is greatly reduced." Bullshit. Even a .22lr has lethal potential beyond 300m, even if it's not accurate. The Wiki link you provided quotes the lethal range as 900m. Didn't you even read it?
The "overlapping machine gun sounds" are the result of the sounds of the rounds splattering on the ground and the sounds of the actual gunfire delayed by distance.
Get a fucking grip on reality.

I already have a grip on reality. But you evidently have a grip on make-believe. Here's the Wiki data in the table on the right of the page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47#cite_note-izhmash-8:
Effective firing range 350 m (380 yd) It said the same in the previous link I gave; in the table on the RHS.
But you wouldn't understand that. You confuse the sighting distance with the effective kill range.
Here's another link: https://web.archive.org/web/20141006092 ... /akm.shtml from an original Russian site, no less.
So you really think that a hand held machine gun is a long range sniper's rifle? And no one on this forum had the nerve to contradict you!
In fact, all such light automatics have a similar 400m MAXIMUM effective range.
Let me educate you further:
That range is for just a few shots. When you fire the gun for a couple of magazines the range drops to 300m. Work it out...Galaxian won't help you.

Galaxian wrote: But they still haven't tackled the thorny issue of many muzzle flashes & overlapping machine gun sounds from the 4th floor.

If so, where are the broken 4th floor windows?
And bullets from there would have scarcely less range than those from the 32nd floor, without the additional gravity assist - you were implying that such bullets could not kill.
And you have not responded to Ani's earlier point - even if there was a second shooter, for the sake of argument, what evidence exists that this entails are conspiracy to do anything at all?

You'll do ANYTHING to put the boot into Galaxian. That hatred is what blinds you to reality.
Your "gravity assist" is insignificant compared to the muzzle velocity of the bullet, and the air friction/retardation that it experiences. So I'll credit you 5m at most. Do the math.
Galaxian never implied that "such bullets could not kill". That's what you wish I had said. I said that their effectiveness diminished with distance. I have since found a site map that shows the range as 1000 feet or 300m. So their effectiveness is even less than I had earlier assumed (at 200m to target).
That means that more bullets would be useless on ricochet, whereas at close quarters they could still be lethal. This also proves that 58 could not be killed outright by a single shooter.
The second (or more) shooter is a fact. What it proves is an official intention to deceive. Because if two or more shooters were involved, the 'lone psycho gunman' nonsense goes out the window. The police & FBI, etc would have more explaining to do about how such a cabal was put together.

[Ian 2.0]

I'd still like to know WHY it was so clearly a conspiracy. Is the evil guvmint trying to generate public support for an upcoming war against retired white guys?

Side question: isn't it remarkable that administration after administration after administration keep risking these sinister conspiracy operations? Activities so convoluted and dark that most sheeple can't see their true intent? Except for the likes of Sherlock Galaxian, that is.

[rachelbean]

You have to admit it has been a lot more peaceful since Obama took all the guns away and force fed us all fluoride, though. Obviously they need to keep the false flag operations up in order to take away the very few guns left over since the previous successful runs.

[Rum]

According to one of the videos posted earlier the thing was planned by 'anti-gun nuts'. Clinton, Zionists and the Rothschilds were involved. The idea was to get the public to agree on more gun control. It is all in the video - honest.

That deep gubmint lot must be pretty dumb mind you if they think a few dozen more deaths from mass shootings will prise guns out of America's clammy hands. Which makes me for one have a bit less confidence in our Lizard overlords.

[Svartalf]

Unfortunately I have had to add Galaxian to my ignore list. I can handle stupid, I can handle offensive, but offensive stupidity is an adjective too far. Please stop quoting them where possible, cheers.

Galaxian has been dodging questions like a cowboy at a country music festival.

That's the way of conspiracy theorists... love your new sig btw.

[Brian Peacock]

60 people dead is in a single incident is pretty shocking, but 96 people died on US roads that same day, each one planned and caused by big oil and big auto to further their drive towards ever larger, more expensive, thirstier cars with secret on-board monitoring, including biometric data gathering.

The fact that there's no evidence for this actually PROVES that THEY ARE covering their tracks.

[NineBerry]

Big Auto doesn't need to cover its tracks, since it rolls on asphalt, where no tracks are left in the first place.

[Rum]

Big Auto doesn't need to cover its tracks, since it rolls on asphalt, where no tracks are left in the first place.

SEE! Proof!

[Tero]

Anxiety! Evil! Violent!
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the ... g-in-june/
We had a security guy at my old job who went to a violence seminar. They brought up anxiety in some cases. He then monitored people around for anxiety like behavior. In truth, only a part of anxiety people are depressed or desperate in any way that would lead to violence. Some of them would not leave their home if they could just stay there. When they get old and weak and get some support (delivery of food), they do just that.

Whatever his problem, diazepam is rather a poor drug
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diazepam#Adverse_effects

[Clinton Huxley]

You'd think our NWO Illuminati / Battenburg Group Overlords would get better at conducting conspiracies and yet they still keep making the same elementary mistakes that any angry white basement-dweller can spot a mile off.

Come on, Lizards, at least hold a "lessons learned" meeting after each operation.

[pErvinalia]

"Such firearms have a maximum range of 400m." "At half that distance the effectiveness (penetration through clothes into flesh) is greatly reduced." Bullshit. Even a .22lr has lethal potential beyond 300m, even if it's not accurate. The Wiki link you provided quotes the lethal range as 900m. Didn't you even read it?
The "overlapping machine gun sounds" are the result of the sounds of the rounds splattering on the ground and the sounds of the actual gunfire delayed by distance.
Get a fucking grip on reality.

I already have a grip on reality. But you evidently have a grip on make-believe. Here's the Wiki data in the table on the right of the page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47#cite_note-izhmash-8:
Effective firing range 350 m (380 yd) It said the same in the previous link I gave; in the table on the RHS.
But you wouldn't understand that. You confuse the sighting distance with the effective kill range.
Here's another link: https://web.archive.org/web/20141006092 ... /akm.shtml from an original Russian site, no less.
So you really think that a hand held machine gun is a long range sniper's rifle? And no one on this forum had the nerve to contradict you!
In fact, all such light automatics have a similar 400m MAXIMUM effective range.
Let me educate you further:
That range is for just a few shots. When you fire the gun for a couple of magazines the range drops to 300m. Work it out...Galaxian won't help you.

Galaxian wrote: But they still haven't tackled the thorny issue of many muzzle flashes & overlapping machine gun sounds from the 4th floor.

If so, where are the broken 4th floor windows?
And bullets from there would have scarcely less range than those from the 32nd floor, without the additional gravity assist - you were implying that such bullets could not kill.
And you have not responded to Ani's earlier point - even if there was a second shooter, for the sake of argument, what evidence exists that this entails are conspiracy to do anything at all?

You'll do ANYTHING to put the boot into Galaxian. That hatred is what blinds you to reality.
Your "gravity assist" is insignificant compared to the muzzle velocity of the bullet, and the air friction/retardation that it experiences. So I'll credit you 5m at most. Do the math.
Galaxian never implied that "such bullets could not kill". That's what you wish I had said. I said that their effectiveness diminished with distance. I have since found a site map that shows the range as 1000 feet or 300m. So their effectiveness is even less than I had earlier assumed (at 200m to target).
That means that more bullets would be useless on ricochet, whereas at close quarters they could still be lethal. This also proves that 58 could not be killed outright by a single shooter.
The second (or more) shooter is a fact. What it proves is an official intention to deceive. Because if two or more shooters were involved, the 'lone psycho gunman' nonsense goes out the window. The police & FBI, etc would have more explaining to do about how such a cabal was put together.

He had more than 20 guns in there. Let's see the figures for the other 25 or so guns.

[Forty Two]

I'd still like to know WHY it was so clearly a conspiracy. Is the evil guvmint trying to generate public support for an upcoming war against retired white guys?

If Trump & Co. is a fascist regime, then the government is very evil. Who knows what they're capable of. And, one of the things fascists like to do is disarm the private citizenry. Various left-leaning folks have definitely shown that all white people are racist and are part of the capitalist patriarchy, and with a fascist President in their camp, well, if there was any group whose comeuppance was due, it's this group of MAGA hate wearing, bear swilling, Daisy-Duke wearing, southern-sympathizing, mostly Trump supporters.

Side question: isn't it remarkable that administration after administration after administration keep risking these sinister conspiracy operations? Activities so convoluted and dark that most sheeple can't see their true intent? Except for the likes of Sherlock Galaxian, that is.

The shooter was a senior citizen.
Trump is a senior citizen.
You do the math (or maths, if you're Yerpeein).

[Forty Two]

You have to admit it has been a lot more peaceful since Obama took all the guns away and force fed us all fluoride, though. Obviously they need to keep the false flag operations up in order to take away the very few guns left over since the previous successful runs.

I know this is wrong in this day and age, but looking at that profile picture of yours in which you're wearing that tight grey shirt, I can only say "nice guns!" And, I suspect Pappa often repeats the mantra that "they can pry those guns from his cold, dead hands..."