Libertarianism is inherently pro-choice

[NineBerry]

People with downs syndrome can perform real professions. Done even have university diploma like this fellow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Pineda

Certainly contributes more to society than Dodo.

[Drewish]

Yep. Personally, I deem conservatives and right libertarians as being unable to meaningfully contribute to society. Libertarians by their very definition, particularly. When do we get to murder them?

Congrats. You can figure out the rest of that css problem on your own. I don't need the kindness of strangers, and the ones who try to shun people for fighting against being forced to care for strangers are a waste of space. This is why I was hoping to get responses from right wingers here; why waste time discussing things with the mentally inferior?

[Brian Peacock]

To give an example: Nobody wants their baby to be born with down syndrome. Forcing parents or taxpayers into a lifetime of taking care of a being that will never be able to meaningfully contribute to society? At one point the parents would be allowed, and often expected, to leave it out for the wolves. That's a saner approach than this "human life is sacred" bullshit.

I go to a local café where a Downs man works in the kitchens and waits table. He's paid, he's paying taxes. He might not be a great conversationalist but he's contributing to the society I live in: he doesn't put his thumb in the beans and he brings me cups of tea you can stand a spoon up in - which I appreciate. So what do you consider to be a "meaningful contribution to society", and shouldn't non-disabled people who don't meaningfully contribute to society be put down as well - along with those who fall out of the "meaningful contributors" category through workplace accidents, injury, or long-term illness etc. And who's to decide whether you or your children are meaningful contributors, or not, and by what measure? If your answer is something like, "Well, my family and I are obviously exempt from that because we're clearly not disabled," then you might as well be saying, "Well, we're OK because we're clearly not aficionados of Country music."

[Strontium Dog]

To give an example: Nobody wants their baby to be born with down syndrome. Forcing parents or taxpayers into a lifetime of taking care of a being that will never be able to meaningfully contribute to society? At one point the parents would be allowed, and often expected, to leave it out for the wolves. That's a saner approach than this "human life is sacred" bullshit.

Not a million miles away from Peter Singer's view on the matter, although he puts it a little more eloquently.

[Tero]

Coyotes. There are not enough wolves to eat the downs babies born. Coyotes are in all states.

[Rum]

Yep. Personally, I deem conservatives and right libertarians as being unable to meaningfully contribute to society. Libertarians by their very definition, particularly. When do we get to murder them?

Congrats. You can figure out the rest of that css problem on your own. I don't need the kindness of strangers, and the ones who try to shun people for fighting against being forced to care for strangers are a waste of space. This is why I was hoping to get responses from right wingers here; why waste time discussing things with the mentally inferior?

Arguably one thing we have if we reject religion is our humanity. Your alleged approach leads to a coldness and lack of warmth towards your fellow human beings. You don't even have to think of 'caring for strangers' as altruistic. You can think of it as reciprocal if that makes you feel any better. You get your share when you need it.

[Animavore]

To give an example: Nobody wants their baby to be born with down syndrome. Forcing parents or taxpayers into a lifetime of taking care of a being that will never be able to meaningfully contribute to society? At one point the parents would be allowed, and often expected, to leave it out for the wolves. That's a saner approach than this "human life is sacred" bullshit.

I go to a local café where a Downs man works in the kitchens and waits table. He's paid, he's paying taxes. He might not be a great conversationalist but he's contributing to the society I live in: he doesn't put his thumb in the beans and he brings me cups of tea you can stand a spoon up in - which I appreciate. So what do you consider to be a "meaningful contribution to society", and shouldn't non-disabled people who don't meaningfully contribute to society be put down as well - along with those who fall out of the "meaningful contributors" category through workplace accidents, injury, or long-term illness etc. And who's to decide whether you or your children are meaningful contributors, or not, and by what measure? If your answer is something like, "Well, my family and I are obviously exempt from that because we're clearly not disabled," then you might as well be saying, "Well, we're OK because we're clearly not aficionados of Country music."

There's one working in Dublin Airport as a baggage handler and another in Dunnes Stores.

[Brian Peacock]

To be sure, but are they contributing to society in a meaningful way? Aye, there's the rub.

[Svartalf]

define meaningful? am I contributing to society meaningfully by being an entertaining font of knowledge?

[Brian Peacock]

But you make such an excellent font.

Svarty Regular.
Svarty Condensed.
Svarty Light.
Svarty Black.

[Svartalf]

Svarty Black

[L'Emmerdeur]

Arguably one thing we have if we reject religion is our humanity. Your alleged approach leads to a coldness and lack of warmth towards your fellow human beings. You don't even have to think of 'caring for strangers' as altruistic. You can think of it as reciprocal if that makes you feel any better. You get your share when you need it.

That approach doesn't work if somebody believes that 'fuck off Jack; I got mine' should be a central tenet of human interaction.

[pErvinalia]

Yep. Personally, I deem conservatives and right libertarians as being unable to meaningfully contribute to society. Libertarians by their very definition, particularly. When do we get to murder them?

Congrats. You can figure out the rest of that css problem on your own. I don't need the kindness of strangers, and the ones who try to shun people for fighting against being forced to care for strangers are a waste of space. This is why I was hoping to get responses from right wingers here; why waste time discussing things with the mentally inferior?

What sort of responses do you expect you'll get when you advocate the murder of people who are different to you? If you hold repugnant opinions, don't be surprised when you get less than charitable responses.

[Tyrannical]

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Lol, not many people advocate for the murder of people for being similar to themselves. Thought I'd throw that out.


And remember, legally it's not murder if the killing is legal

[laklak]

Coyotes. There are not enough wolves to eat the downs babies born. Coyotes are in all states.

And at exactly the same time those coyotes are eating Baby Corky, other coyotes are bringing Mexican babies across the border in broken down refrigerator trucks.

Maybe we should import some dingoes.