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by Animavore » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:45 am
Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.
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by Animavore » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:53 am
Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.
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by mistermack » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:59 am
That's a blog site selling a book. Five years ago.
You have to scout hard for your "facts".
There are white gangsters and black gangsters. My point was that there are a lot more black gangsters, for their numbers, than whites. It's backed up by the facts. Maybe an unfortunate fact for your blinkered campaign against reality.
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by Animavore » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:25 pm
mistermack wrote:
That's a blog site selling a book. Five years ago.
You have to scout hard for your "facts".
There are white gangsters and black gangsters. My point was that there are a lot more black gangsters, for their numbers, than whites. It's backed up by the facts. Maybe an unfortunate fact for your blinkered campaign against reality.
Show me the facts. Show me the stats. You posted an article about two black gangs and tried to imply that all there are more black gangsters.
5 years ago isn't that long ago either. WTF?
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by mistermack » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:25 pm
Animavore wrote:[quote="mistermack"
Show me the facts. Show me the stats. You posted an article about two black gangs and tried to imply that all there are more black gangsters.
5 years ago isn't that long ago either. WTF?
I posted a story that was reported in every British major
NEWSPAPER within the last seven days.
As well as the tv news media.
You linked a blog of some bloke selling his book from five years ago.
And I would point out that the UK is still predominantly white. You would expect it's gangs to be predominantly white, and you'd be wrong.
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by Animavore » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:02 pm
mistermack wrote:Animavore wrote:[quote="mistermack"
Show me the facts. Show me the stats. You posted an article about two black gangs and tried to imply that all there are more black gangsters.
5 years ago isn't that long ago either. WTF?
I posted a story that was reported in every British major
NEWSPAPER within the last seven days.
As well as the tv news media.
You linked a blog of some bloke selling his book from five years ago.
And I would point out that the UK is still predominantly white. You would expect it's gangs to be predominantly white, and you'd be wrong.
Your story doesn't prove your point. Black gangs are black. Who would've thought it?!
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by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:26 pm
In an
analysis (PDF) carried out by the British government, it was found that there is no strong correlation between ethnicity and criminal activity. Other factors are indicative however; apparently family influence is one of the most important. This went against an earlier study that appeared to show that non-white youth were less likely to be offenders.
Social class, ethnic group and religious participation were not significantly associated with increased or reduced likelihood of offending, ASB and drug use.
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The analysis does not indicate any significant influence on trajectories associated with ethnicity or religious affiliation, after controlling for other factors included in the models. As noted earlier, some analyses of the OCJS (e.g. Sharp and Budd, 2005) have pointed to the evidence that levels of offending and drug use were lower for young people of non-White ethnic identities and those with religious affiliation. Our findings suggest this pattern is attributable to other characteristics of these sample members.
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by mistermack » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:37 pm
In a real world analysis that you could carry out by visiting any British prison, you will find that non-whites are a far higher proportion than whites, per head of population. And for more violent offences.
Government studies are often told what to find, and then they go find it.
Having said that, the high numbers of white eastern Europeans adding to our crime figures muddies the water a bit.
You could call them honorary blacks, or just analyse the crimes committed by British born nationals to get the true picture.
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by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:42 pm

As if anybody needed further evidence that the 'rivers of blood' spirit lives on in the UK.
Two points regarding the above 'real world analysis.' Minorities in the UK disproportionally live in
deprived neighbourhoods, which relates to the findings that show that ethnicity in itself is not the determining factor for criminal activity. Second, there is a disparity of sentences in British courts that is correlated with ethnicity:
"Race variation in jail sentences, study suggests"
Offenders from ethnic minorities are more likely than their white counterparts to be sentenced to prison for certain categories of crimes, according to an analysis of more than one million court records.
The study, carried out by the Guardian, found black offenders were 44% more likely than white offenders to be sentenced to prison for driving offences, 38% more likely to be imprisoned for public disorder or possession of a weapon and 27% more likely for drugs possession.
Asian offenders were 41% more likely to be sent to prison for drugs offences than their white counterparts and 19% more likely to go to jail for shoplifting.
The findings, which accord with a history of academic research into disparities, suggest wider variations in sentencing than in some previous studies and also show variation between courts.
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by mistermack » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:54 pm
What bollocks.
We have the same stoopid logic about stop and search.
You stop and search people in high crime areas, (which also happen to be high foreign ethnic areas) because it pays off. And it's the same ethnic group of people who are highly represented in the victim count.
The home office hates the truth coming out. Governments want no criticism of immigration, because they are the people who are making it happen.
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by pErvinalia » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:40 am
Yeah, facts are bollocks.
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by Brian Peacock » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:34 am
mistermack wrote:...
There are white gangsters and black gangsters. My point was that there are a lot more black gangsters, for their numbers, than whites. It's backed up by the facts. Maybe an unfortunate fact for your blinkered campaign against reality.
I'd be interested in checking out those facts for myself, or reading what you might offer by way of qualification.

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by Hermit » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:03 am
Brian Peacock wrote:mistermack wrote:There are white gangsters and black gangsters. My point was that there are a lot more black gangsters, for their numbers, than whites. It's backed up by the facts. Maybe an unfortunate fact for your blinkered campaign against reality.
I'd be interested in checking out those facts for myself, or reading what you might offer by way of qualification.

You can do that easily enough. The
Daily Mail is readily accessible to everybody.
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