We need to talk about Donald: the cursing & swearing thread

[Animavore]

Looking at this, I'd imagine Bannon will be played by Brian Cox's corpse when they make the movie.

[Sean Hayden]

Thanks dude, should I be worried about these nazis though?

You probably should be worried. If not for yourself, for your fellow citizens who are coloured or Jews. Unless you don't care about those types..

We've been dealing with these nut jobs for ages. They ain't getting their shit together. I provided reasons for believing this will never happen. Our response as a country should further ease any anxiety you may feel.

The right answer to the question I posed before about what to do ensure my family's safety may have been, "vote Democrat", and that's just about what I think of all this. Good for them too, I guess. But also fuck them, fuck the theater.

[JimC]

Sean, does it worry you that your commander-in-chief had to be dragged kicking and screaming into criticising them?

[Animavore]

Wall Street Journal's 'Coal Makes a Comeback' is real fake journalism.

Not long ago liberals hailed the demise of coal as inevitable while the Obama Administration strangled the industry with regulation. But don’t look now, Tom Steyer, because coal is showing signs of a revival and breathing economic life into West Virginia and other coal states. […]

Yet the Trump Presidency seems to have lifted animal spirits and coal. Weekly coal production has increased by 14.5% nationwide over last year with even bigger bumps in West Virginia (19%), Pennsylvania (19.7%) and Wyoming (19.8%). Exports were up 58% during the first quarter from last year. Apparently coal can be marketable if regulators let it be.

Honestly, I don’t know what “animal spirits” are or how they get lifted, but the contention that Trump has given a big boost to coal is simply, what’s that term? Fake news. Or, in language that’s even easier to understand, it’s a big, fat lie. In their attempt to support Trump, the Wall Street Journal is distorting the truth about coal and cruelly raising the hopes of people who have bought into a false promise. They’re performing a disservice to their readers and to their nation.

That big increase in production they’re talking about? It’s generated by comparing the current weekly production with the same week last year. The first quarter of 2017 saw production of 197 million tons of coal, compared to 173 million in the same quarter of 2016. Which does look like an uptick.

But look at it in context.



That single orange bar, the bar that’s actually lower than the quarter before, and the quarter before that? That’s Trump’s “comeback.”

Yes, the first quarter of 2017 is higher than the first quarter of 2016, but that’s because the first quarter of 2016 represented a record low. The quarter reflected a mild winter in much of the country, a dip in gas prices, large stockpiles on the ground at many power plants, and market disruption following the bankruptcy of the two largest coal companies in the nation. The second quarter of 2016 went even lower as an extreme dip in gas prices encouraged utilities to reduce coal inventories and utilize gas turbines to full capacity.

Comparing this week with one in 2016 may seem reasonable on the surface. It’s not. Notice that how different quarters of the year relate changes depending on the weather, the market, and many other factors including the cost and availability of rail transportation. While the first quarter of 2016 showed a big drop in production, the first quarter of 2015 was actually the most productive quarter of the year. If the Wall Street Journal had chosen to compare production in 2015 vs 2017 rather than purposely searching out that dip at the start of 2016, the numbers would show that production under Trump is down by 20 percent.

What’s changed since then? Nothing. For a newspaper that’s supposed to represent the interests of investors, the Wall Street Journal position presented here isn’t just wrong, it’s deliberately deceptive.

More...https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8 ... journalism

[Animavore]

^ Reminds me how the related climate denialists read graphs.

[Sean Hayden]

Sean, does it worry you that your commander-in-chief had to be dragged kicking and screaming into criticising them?

It's Donald Trump. I don't look to the guy for anything. Don't forget that he lost the popular vote, and he continues to be unpopular. He doesn't speak for most of us.

[JimC]

That may be true, but he is certainly giving oxygen to the KKK etc.

[Sean Hayden]

That's the story anyway. I wonder if they see it like that? It may just look like the world's ending to them.

[pErvinalia]

Thanks dude, should I be worried about these nazis though?

You probably should be worried. If not for yourself, for your fellow citizens who are coloured or Jews. Unless you don't care about those types..

We've been dealing with these nut jobs for ages. They ain't getting their shit together. I provided reasons for believing this will never happen. Our response as a country should further ease any anxiety you may feel.

The right answer to the question I posed before about what to do ensure my family's safety may have been, "vote Democrat", and that's just about what I think of all this. Good for them too, I guess. But also fuck them, fuck the theater.

Your posts don't make a lot of sense. The loony right is growing in the US. They are weaponed up and aren't afraid to kill people. And they target minorities. That's what I'm saying to you. You appear to not give a fuck solely for the reason that you aren't a minority, so who gives a fuck, right?

[JimC]

That's the story anyway. I wonder if they see it like that? It may just look like the world's ending to them.

Not when the KKK leader thanked Trump for his "balanced" response; that, plus the presence of clear supporters in the President's entourage would be making them happy little fruitloops......

I'm fairly certain that the alt right has grown both more vociferous, and more likely to indulge in violent protests in recent years in the US. Oz too...

[Animavore]

[Sean Hayden]

The loony right isn't growing in the US. We continue to move further left across many fronts. I gave a few examples before, gay marriage, drug/prison reform, healthcare reform.

Our guns continue to be a major problem regardless of who owns them.

[pErvinalia]

The loony right isn't growing in the US.

Do you share a rock that you live under with 42?

We continue to move further left across many fronts. I gave a few examples before, gay marriage, drug/prison reform, healthcare reform.

Non-sequitur. That says absolutely nothing about whether the loony right is growing in your country.

[pErvinalia]

There is no doubt that the loony right have been emboldened all across the world, but particularly in the US under Trump. I'm really not sure what the malfunction people like Sean, Siva and 42 suffer under. I don't understand how these people can see targeting members of the most evil ideology the world has ever seen as lamentable. IT'S FUCKING NAZISM FFS.

[Sean Hayden]

That's correct. They could be growing while losing important policy battles. I can't always be right.