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Re: We need to talk about Donald: the cursing & swearing thr

Post by Forty Two » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:45 pm

pErvin wrote:
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Brian Peacock wrote:
Forty Two wrote:The Russia story is politically motivated bullshit, knowingly peddled by dishonest political hacks. https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/155 ... ise-mensch
Isn't that for the ongoing investigations to conclude?
Of course, but it's plain to see that there is no evidence to date.
How is it "plain to see"? Any detailed evidence is classified.
The testimony of the intelligence officials who said so. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump ... le/2626994
That comment came after Comey said that an entire New York Times report alleging "repeated contacts" between Trump and his associates with "senior Russian intelligence officials" was false.

"In the main, it was not true," Comey said of the Times report.
Liberal MSNBC host Chris Matthews said the theory held by Trump's opponents that his campaign colluded with Russia "came apart" with Comey's testimony.

The investigation into Russia's election meddling continues with the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller and the story isn't over.
James Clapper confirmed in May, still no evidence of collusion between Trump campaign and Russia - http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/james ... le/2622452
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Re: We need to talk about Donald: the cursing & swearing thr

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:17 pm

Second sentence of that first link: "Has anybody checked to see if Charles Blow still has a pulse?"

I can see this is going to be a serious piece of investigative journalism.. :roll:
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:19 pm

Another impartial sentence indicating objective and reasoned journalism.. "When weeks and weeks worth of multiple investigations go by — the FBI and both houses of Congress are all investigating the same thing — with nothing to show for them, reporters might look into a mirror and wonder, "What have I been doing with my life?" (Unless you're Chris Hayes of MSNBC, in which case you look and wonder, "Why do I have the same haircut as Rachel Maddow?")"

This is going good... :bored:
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:23 pm

Wow, this is retarded even by your standards. That first link is a highly sarcastic opinion piece stating that a bunch of journalists have the same opinion as you do. So when you said "The testimony of the intelligence officials who said so", you were lying yet again. FFS, just stop making up bullshit. :nono:

And what's even more retarded is that, as is often the case, your own article undermines your own position and makes my point for me. :fp: Viz:
"The challenge … about writing on classified information is the people talking about it often don't really know what's going on," he said in his testimony. "And those of us that know what's going on aren't talking about it."
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:33 pm

Oh God, the second link has a grand total of seven sentences in it... That's some heavy journalism there, man! :lol:

Ok, reading on... It's nearly two months old. So any evidence that may have come to light since then can't be covered by this article.

Man, I'm not even going to give that "article" the respect by even commenting on it. It's another bunch of opinion, in addition to a series of short quote snippets presented as proof of something. It's probably not quote mining. I couldn't imagine such an esteemed publication as the Washington Examiner, which writes such fine articles as the two presented, ever quote mining. Never. No way.
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Post by Tero » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:50 pm

Bit distant to matter, but Trump associated lawyer in trouble:

Authorities in two states are looking into a nonprofit led by an attorney to Donald Trump, after the Guardian reported it had steered tens of millions of dollars to the attorney, his family and their businesses.

Josh Stein, the attorney general of North Carolina, and Eric Schneiderman, the attorney general of New York, said on Wednesday they would be examining the operations of Jay Sekulow’s group Christian Advocates Serving Evangelism (Case).
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... SApp_Other

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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump ... le/2627389

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Post by Tero » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:51 am

Endless little nasty tampering:
The Trump administration named Hans von Spakovsky of the Heritage Foundation as a member of the commission, who’s done more than anyone other than Kobach to spread the myth of voter fraud and enact suppressive policies. Von Spakovsky was special counsel to the Bush administration’s Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Brad Schlozman, who said he wanted to “gerrymander all of those crazy libs right out of the [voting] section.” It was a time when longtime civil-rights lawyers were pushed out of the Justice Department and the likes of Schlozman and von Spakovsky reversed the Civil Rights Division’s traditional role of safeguarding voting rights. When von Spakovsky was nominated to the FEC, six former lawyers in the voting section called him “the point person for undermining the Civil Rights Division’s mandate to protect voting rights.” My favorite example of von Spakovsky’s ethical lapses is the fact that he published an article praising voter-ID laws under the pseudonym “Publius” at the same time he was in charge of approving Georgia’s voter-ID law at DoJ. With the likes of Kobach and von Spakovsky on it, Trump’s commission has nothing to do with election integrity and everything to do with suppressing votes ahead of the 2018 and 2020 elections.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:12 am

States fight Trump commission's effort to gather voters' personal data

An effort to gather voters’ details to prevent alleged fraud has been met with a furious backlash, as states fear an attempt at mass voter suppression

An attempt by Donald Trump’s newly convened commission on election integrity to gather detailed information on the country’s voting population prompted a furious backlash on Friday, as at least 24 states either resisted the request on privacy protection grounds or flat-out rejected it as a backdoor effort at mass voter suppression.

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Another 11 states raised questions, in many cases because they are concerned their laws maintaining confidentiality and privacy could become moot once their lists were in the hands of the federal government. Bizarrely, even Kansas – with Kobach as elections chief – said it could not fully comply with the request, because state law did not permit release of even partial social security numbers.

Although the strongest opposition came from Democrats, the resistance to Kobach’s request crossed party lines. Many state-level Republicans such as Ohio secretary of state Jon Husted insisted they ran clean and fair elections and did not have issues with fraud.

Election experts do not dispute there is room for improvement in many aspects of the US electoral system, including the streamlining of its voter registration records. But they say this commission is blatantly partisan – Pence, Kobach, and fellow member Kenneth Blackwell, are all Republicans with track records of championing vote suppression mechanisms, and seemingly uninterested in adopting meaningful solutions to real problems.

“If they were serious about improving integrity in our elections, they would be talking about providing resources so our voting machines and voter registration databases are safe from hacking,” said Myrna Perez, director of the voting rights and elections project center at New York University’s Brennan Center. “They would be talking about an automatic voter registration system that was expansive and thoughtfully designed.”.

Kobach’s letter coincided with a separate request sent out by the justice department asking states to demonstrate their compliance with the voter purge aspects of a 1994 voter registration law. Many voting rights activists suspect Kobach is in favor of amending or scrapping the 1994 law, based on a document captured by a photographer last November when Kobach met then-president elect Trump at his New Jersey golf club. When a judge discovered that Kobach had denied the document’s existence in court filings, he fined Kobach $1,000 and upbraided him for his “deceptive conduct and lack of candor”...

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Post by DRSB » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:12 am

The Trump Administration Is Planning an Unprecedented Attack on Voting Rights
We are witnessing the beginning of a nationwide voter-suppression campaign, led by the White House and enabled by Congress and the Department of Justice.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:44 am

Regarding the video from the long-discredited and ironically named "Project Veritas" (operated by the proven liar O'Keefe):

"Van Jones: Much ado about nothing (burger)"
So let's turn back to the latest video from James O'Keefe, where I was supposedly caught on camera shrugging off the Russia investigation.

Interviewer: "What do you think is going to happen this week with the whole Russian thing?

Van Jones: "The whole Russia thing is a big nothing-burger. There is nothing you can do --"

Did I mean that there is "nothing" to the allegations that members of team Trump colluded with the Russians and then tried to cover it up by firing FBI Director James Comey? No -- and far from it.

But that's not what I was talking about. I have been consistently pushing my fellow Democrats to deal with bread and butter issues -- and not just hope and believe Trump will be impeached and gone tomorrow. I have been beating this drum for weeks now.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:54 am

Let's not forget the latest evidence that one of the supposed "adults in the room" is nothing but another slimy dirtbag:

"Kushner told 'Morning Joe' hosts to apologize to Trump or tabloid story would run: report"
President Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, told "Morning Joe" hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski they would need to apologize to Trump in order to avoid the National Enquirer publishing a story about their relationship, New York Magazine reported Friday.

The magazine reports that Kushner texted with Scarborough about the tabloid story before it ran in mid-April. Kushner said the story could be stopped if Scarborough and his co-host, who are engaged to be married, apologized to Trump for their negative coverage of his first months in the White House.

After Scarborough refused, the National Enquirer ran a story on June 5 titled "Joe & Mika: TV Couple’s Sleazy Cheating Scandal."
Of course the 'National Enquirer' denies this, and we can believe what they say. Right? Right?

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:40 pm

I think we need to see what the Washington Examiner has to say about it. I hear it's a quality publication.
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Post by Tero » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:51 pm

I actually read the Washington Examiner as it repeats Washington Post stories. That one tells me I have read all the free ones I get, for the month.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:54 pm

Well their quality control is slipping going by the two rubbish articles 42 posted yesterday.
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Post by DRSB » Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:38 pm

POLITICS
President Trump Slams ‘Archaic’ U.S. Constitution, Says It Is ‘Really Bad’ for Nation

Just when you didn’t think this guy could get any crazier…

President Trump sat down with Fox News recently for an interview. One of the topics covered was the United States Constitution. And during that conversation, Trump had some damning words about for the Constitution.

“It’s an archaic system,” Trump said. “You look at the rules of the Senate – even the rules of the House – but the rules of the Senate and some of the things you have to go through…it’s…it’s really a bad thing for the country, in my opinion.”

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