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Re: We need to talk about Donald – the Nightmare continues

Post by JimC » Wed May 31, 2017 1:16 am

Someone should do a parody song based on "Dedicated follower of fashion" (the Kinks, from memory...)
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed May 31, 2017 1:38 am

"They seek him here, they seek him there
His smile is fake, and so's his hair
His lies will make or break him so he's got to buy the best
'Cause he's a dedicated follower of fashion"
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Post by Animavore » Wed May 31, 2017 7:40 am

Not a "science-y" person? Climate change not something you believe in?

Good article on the massive economic benefits Trump would be throwing away if he exits the Paris Agreement and follows this dead-end dream of renewing the fossil industry.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -a-big-win
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed May 31, 2017 10:43 am

Yep $400 for half a million followers. A nice little number to run. Twitter should scrap followers.
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Post by Animavore » Wed May 31, 2017 2:24 pm

Trump is pulling out of the Paris agreement. America's relevance on the World stage diminishes. Europe and China stepping up to the plate.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed May 31, 2017 5:14 pm

Fool. He probably thinks either his money will protect his grandchildren from rising sea levels or he has powers which Canute clearly lacked.

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Post by Tero » Wed May 31, 2017 10:58 pm

Trump expected to withdraw from teenage prostitute.

The withdrawal would fulfill a Trump campaign promise but would be certain to infuriate America’s allies across the globe. It would threaten to destabilize the most comprehensive pact ever negotiated to blunt the most devastating effects of US-Russia prostitute exchange plan

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:43 am

The Loneliness of Donald Trump
Once upon a time, a child was born into wealth and wanted for nothing, but he was possessed by bottomless, endless, grating, grasping wanting, and wanted more, and got it, and more after that, and always more. He was a pair of ragged orange claws upon the ocean floor, forever scuttling, pinching, reaching for more, a carrion crab, a lobster and a boiling lobster pot in one, a termite, a tyrant over his own little empires. He got a boost at the beginning from the wealth handed him and then moved among grifters and mobsters who cut him slack as long as he was useful, or maybe there’s slack in arenas where people live by personal loyalty until they betray, and not by rules, and certainly not by the law or the book. So for seven decades, he fed his appetites and exercised his license to lie, cheat, steal, and stiff working people of their wages, made messes, left them behind, grabbed more baubles, and left them in ruin.

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The child who became the most powerful man in the world, or at least occupied the real estate occupied by a series of those men, had run a family business and then starred in an unreality show based on the fiction that he was a stately emperor of enterprise, rather than a buffoon barging along anyhow, and each was a hall of mirrors made to flatter his sense of self, the self that was his one edifice he kept raising higher and higher and never abandoned.

I have often run across men (and rarely, but not never, women) who have become so powerful in their lives that there is no one to tell them when they are cruel, wrong, foolish, absurd, repugnant. In the end there is no one else in their world, because when you are not willing to hear how others feel, what others need, when you do not care, you are not willing to acknowledge others’ existence. That’s how it’s lonely at the top. It is as if these petty tyrants live in a world without honest mirrors, without others, without gravity, and they are buffered from the consequences of their failures.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:10 am

Yeah, Daddy 'issues'.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:35 pm

Nigel Farage is a “person of interest” in the US counter-intelligence investigation that is looking into possible collusion between the Kremlin and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, the Guardian has been told.

Sources with knowledge of the investigation said the former Ukip leader had raised the interest of FBI investigators because of his relationships with individuals connected to both the Trump campaign and Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder whom Farage visited in March.

WikiLeaks published troves of hacked emails last year that damaged Hillary Clinton’s campaign and is suspected of having cooperated with Russia through third parties, according to recent congressional testimony by the former CIA director John Brennan, who also said the adamant denials of collusion by Assange and Russia were disingenuous.

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Sources who spoke to the Guardian said it was Farage’s proximity to people at the heart of the investigation that was being examined as an element in their broader inquiry into how Russia may have worked with Trump campaign officials to influence the US election.

“One of the things the intelligence investigators have been looking at is points of contact and persons involved,” one source said. “If you triangulate Russia, WikiLeaks, Assange and Trump associates the person who comes up with the most hits is Nigel Farage.

“He’s right in the middle of these relationships. He turns up over and over again. There’s a lot of attention being paid to him.”..

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... _clipboard
Sean Spicer: White House is no longer taking questions on Trump and Russia: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... _clipboard

It must be all that negative covfefe.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:44 pm

No wonder Farage is keeping his trap shut.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:13 pm

Is there any evidence of illegal collusion between Russia and Donald Trump's campaign, yet? Just checking.

Is any of this a problem? http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/putin ... le/2617149
Putin aide: Clinton advisers met with Russian ambassador 'lots' of times
"You would probably recall that President Putin, during election campaign, had never answered directly a question about his candidate of his support. He kept saying that we will respect a choice of American people," Peskov said.

"The candidate Hillary Clinton was quite negative about our country in her attitude and in her program, declaring Russia being nearly the main evil in the world and the main threat for the United States."

Trump, however, said he was willing to work with Russia despite disagreements, Peskov said.

"Whom would you like better? The one who says that Russia is evil or the one who says that, 'Yes, we disagree, but let's talk to understand and to try to find some points of agreement?'" he asked.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:15 pm

Animavore wrote:Trump is pulling out of the Paris agreement. America's relevance on the World stage diminishes. Europe and China stepping up to the plate.

Reaping what has been sown.
You should be glad, then. It's about time Europe shouldered some of the lead, right? After all, Europe is the civilized world, anyway, and the US is dumb, fat, superstitious, and violent anyway. So, Trump pulling is out of "relevance" can only be a help to the world. Let the US recede into the background, and the big boys with the brains and the wisdom to do the job right can lead the planet.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:17 pm

Did any of the Dems or their staff lie about their meetings? :ask:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:51 pm

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