pErvin wrote:Forty Two wrote:Well, has someone said the things you noted in your last sentences? Or is that just something you imagine other people are saying?
He's taking the piss out of you and your like. The kind of people who don't understand sexism/racism/bigotry etc. The kind who whine "won't somebody think of the men?!!1".
Except that I haven't said "won't somebody think of the men." When something is sexist, that means that it is based on sex, meaning women are being treated differently than men. I've only pointed to men's attire to show that, really, men are not advantaged here. Men are judged just as harshly as women if they go with styles that are beyond a standard business attire, and men actually are given less leeway in that regard, from a cultural and customary standpoint, than women - meaning that women can wear a far wider variety of forms of attire without being seen as outside a dress code than men.
pErvin wrote:Oh look:
Also, saying that this is not an area where women have it worse than men is not saying women have nothing at all worthy of complaint. Just because they have some legitimate gripes doesn't make every gripe legitimate. Men have gripes too, that doesn't make everything a worthwhile gripe for them, does it?
Are dress code customs really harder on women than men? I mean, don't women have far more customarily accepted choices and options than men?
What's the roll for? Isn't it true that women have far more customarily accepted choices and options than men? How is it that the issue raised in the article is an injustice to women? How is it sexism? Where is the disparate treatment, other than a culture which allows more leeway to women than men, and more options to women than men, and less harsh judgment on women than men? I've mentioned a man perhaps showing up to work in a backless shirt. What of, say, a man comes to work in tight pants which form fit, a tightly buttoned, sleeveless shirt, and his tie is not fully knotted, but he has it stylishly hanging from his neck loosely, with the top three buttons open...? That would be "judged" as rather odd for a man. For a woman, that's common, and wouldn't raise a single eyebrow.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
