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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by Animavore » Wed May 10, 2017 2:42 pm

Oval Office Fumigated After Complaints Of Overwhelming Smell Of Bullshit.

A PARADE of trucks, from several competing fumigation service providers, were seen lining up outside the White House at 7am this morning following reports that the Oval Office may have become infested with noxious bullshit.

Many concerned citizens working in buildings in the surrounding Washington DC area complained about the overwhelming stench shortly after the office of the President issued a press release yesterday evening confirming FBI Director James Comey had been fired by President Trump.

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“You know, it’s the kind of smell that just lodges itself up in your nose, and gives your gag reflex something to think about,” shared one person who could smell it all the way from his office in the Senate building.

People from far away as Florida, California and Texas subsequently reported the smell to the relevant authorities shortly after the Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, who had recused himself from being directly involved in a probe into the Trump administration’s alleged ties with Russia, fired the man who was leading the probe.


In a bid to sanitise and clean up the stench, rival fumigation firms have confirmed they will have to work around the clock and have been candid about the task ahead.

“We can’t be certain, but that office may never be the same again,” bullshit suction pump operator Guillem Sanchez shared with WWN before screaming “we’re going to need a bigger suction pump” to a nearby colleague.

Despite the pungent odour emanating from the Oval Office, President Trump tweeted just moments ago confirming that he couldn’t smell anything.
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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 10, 2017 2:43 pm

Why isn't this in the Donald thread? :lay:
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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 10, 2017 2:48 pm

Forty Two wrote:Donald Trump followed the advice of top Democrats and fired FBI Director Comey. Senator Chuck Schumer (D - NY) said on November 2, 2016, "I do not have confidence in him any longer," and Comey's letter to Congress about the Clinton email scandal "appalling." Also on that date, Representative Nancy Pelosi (D - California) pondered "Maybe he's not right for the job." Democratic operative James Carville suggested that Comey was part of a Republican conspiracy with Russian intelligence to install Trump as President.

Senator Harry Reid said on December 10, 2016,"This is not fake news. Intelligence officials are hiding connections to the Russian government. There is no question...Comey knew and deliberately kept this info a secret." Indeed, Senator Harry Reid (D - Utah) pointed out that there was "no question" that Comey "knew" and "deliberately kept secret" information about connections to the Russian government (thus helping Trump). When asked if Comey should resign, Reid said "of course, yes."

On November 3, 2016, Representative Steve Cohen (D - Tennessee) wrote "I called on FBI Director James Comey to resign his position after his recent communication with members of Congress regarding the bureau's review of emails potentially related to Hillary Clinton's personal email server."

Maxine Waters (D - California) said of Comey "The FBI director has no credibility."

And, Hank Johnson (D - Georgia) said "My confidence in the FBI director's ability to lead this agency has been shaken."

Now, these same Democrats are calling for a special prosecutor (Schumer) and investigations to address the horrible firing of this fine FBI Director who didndonuffin and was apparently well-qualified, and filled them all with "confidence."

Schumer now says, "If we don't get a special prosecutor, every American will rightfully suspect that the decision to fire #Comey was part of a cover-up." LOL, right, because Comey, who is part of the conspiracy, will now, after he is fired, be less likely to blow the whistle on the conspiracy of which he was part and parcel, and which led to Hillary Clinton, the Democratic candidate, to lose the election.

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So, until Tuesday, Democrats wanted Comey out, and said he was part of the reason their candidate lost, and now it's "Nixonian" for Trump to fire Comey. Must be that Comey was not engaged in the nefarious deeds the Democrats accused him of, and Comey was actually working against Trump and Trump is trying to stop Comey in his good offices.... yeah yeah...that's it.
What's more ironic is that Trump was perfectly happy with Comey when he was fucking Hillary's election chances, yet now that he is investigating Trump et al for treasonous activities, all of a sudden he needs to be sacked because of how he handled the Clinton email scandal. Yeah right. Nothing at all whatsoever to do with the fact that Trump is punishing him for coming after him. This is proto-fascism. Well, it would certainly be if Trump was ideological and consistent enough to even attempt to pursue a fascist-like agenda. I mean, it's still proto-fascist, even though Trump came to this position via the random thought generator that is his "brain".
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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 10, 2017 4:05 pm

It's fine for Trump to keep Comey on, and allow the Democrats to continually imply, and sometimes outright state, that Comey was part of the conspiracy with Russian intelligence to install Trump in office, but, if Trump gets rid of Comey (as he is entitled to do, for any reason or no reason at all, given that the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the President), then that's "proto-fascist."

Not sure what proto-fascism is, though. What is that? A primitive form of fascism, like from 1915? Trump isn't following modern day fascism, he's moving under protofascism and he's seeking spazio vitale and creating a socialism/nationalism fusion along the vein of Georges Sorel?
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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 10, 2017 4:36 pm

He's attempting to make himself untouchable by the law. Proto meaning beginning of.
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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed May 10, 2017 4:37 pm

pErvin wrote:Why isn't this in the Donald thread? :lay:
Entirely agree. One orange baboon thread is more than enough.
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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 10, 2017 4:58 pm

pErvin wrote:He's attempting to make himself untouchable by the law. Proto meaning beginning of.
Why would someone who was involved in the conspiracy to install Trump to this "proto" fascist position be in any way a threat to Trump?

Proto means beginning of in the sense of original, or primitive, like in language a "proto" language is the earliest form of.... https://www.google.com/#q=define+proto Proto-fascism refers to the direct predecessor ideologies that influenced and formed the basis of fascism, not the early stages of a fascist movement.
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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 10, 2017 5:08 pm

Forty Two wrote:
pErvin wrote:He's attempting to make himself untouchable by the law. Proto meaning beginning of.
Why would someone who was involved in the conspiracy to install Trump to this "proto" fascist position be in any way a threat to Trump?
You are assuming that he was involved in a conspiracy to install Trump. If he wasn't, which is almost certainly the case, then your argument falls down.

So the real question is, was Comey a threat to Trump? Abso-fucking-lutely he was. That's the real point, not some confected conspiracy theory.
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Regarding proto, current Trump appears more and more so to be the beginnings of fascist Trump.
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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 10, 2017 5:24 pm

pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
pErvin wrote:He's attempting to make himself untouchable by the law. Proto meaning beginning of.
Why would someone who was involved in the conspiracy to install Trump to this "proto" fascist position be in any way a threat to Trump?
You are assuming that he was involved in a conspiracy to install Trump. If he wasn't, which is almost certainly the case, then your argument falls down.
You know that, and I know that, but somebody needs to tell Schumer and Pelosi and Cohen and Reid and other Democratic politicians and operatives. They seemed to think Comey was involved in a cover-up of the Russian contacts and in league with Trump to defeat Hillary. When it was politically expedient for them to declare a conspiracy, they did it. Now, just a few months later, with no new information (as far as anyone has said), they think it's treasonous or Nixonian for Trump to have fired the guy they had "no confidence" in and who was, they thought, part of the nefarious plot....
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So the real question is, was Comey a threat to Trump? Abso-fucking-lutely he was. That's the real point, not some confected conspiracy theory.
The Democrats confected a conspiracy theory?

So, were the Democrats confecting a conspiracy theory that did not exist in order to make it difficult or impossible for Trump to fire Comey, so that Comey could be in there helping the Democrats take down Trump? Or, did they make up the conspiracy theory in good faith?
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Re: We need to talk about Donald – the Nightmare continues

Post by Animavore » Wed May 10, 2017 5:38 pm

I don't know why another thread was created about this. Until the merger -



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/p ... n-fbi.html
Days Before Firing, Comey Asked for More Resources for Russia Inquiry

WASHINGTON — Days before he was fired, James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in resources for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to three congressional officials who were briefed on his request.

Mr. Comey asked for the resources last week from Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, who also wrote the Justice Department’s memo that was used to justify the firing of Mr. Comey this week, the officials said.

Mr. Comey then briefed members of Congress on the meeting in recent days, telling them about his meeting with Mr. Rosenstein, who is the most senior law enforcement official supervising the Russia investigation. Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself because of his close ties to the Trump campaign and his undisclosed meetings with the Russian ambassador.
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Re: We need to talk about Donald – the Nightmare continues

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 10, 2017 5:44 pm

pErvin wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Hopefully Trump can an appoint an FBI head that ignores the silly unfounded Russia lies, and goes after more important things, like Hillary emails :{D
He was doing both. Trump was perfectly happy with him while he didn't know he was investigating him. This is proto-fascism. Good luck, America... :?
Trump found out Comey was investigating Trump, and then fired him? You have some reported evidence? Or, is this just what you speculate is happening?
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Re: We need to talk about Donald – the Nightmare continues

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 10, 2017 5:46 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:With the Russian investigation about to start questioning witnesses under oath the people under investigation have just sacked the person investigating them while he was out of the office.

There's no other way to view this, even if the paperwork implies that Comey faultless be sacked for not drawing the right conclusion about Hillary's emails.
If the Democrats were correct, then Comey likely will be subject to investigation for his role in covering up Russian ties, and his handling of the Hillary investigations furthering Trump's nefarious bid for the White House.
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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by Forty Two » Wed May 10, 2017 7:14 pm

the president did to Comey what no president had the courage to do to J. Edgar Hoover. Five presidents wanted to fire Hoover, with Harry Truman accusing him of running a police state and of blackmail. But all were afraid of Hoover, so he died in office.

Trump acted before Comey could get that kind of lifetime protection, which has no place in American democracy. At our best, we are a nation of laws, not of people who accumulate power and ruthlessly wield it without accountability.

The president didn’t have just one good reason to act. He had a choice among many.

The one he cited, Comey’s handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private server, is rich with irony, given its prominence in the campaign. And the irony doesn’t stop, with Democrats who not so long ago were furious with Comey over the Clinton probe rushing out condemnations of Trump for firing him.

“Nixonian” was a common theme, a shot both cheap and predictable. When you’re a hammer, everything is a nail. When you’re a Democrat, everything is Watergate.

Except Comey makes a very poor victim, especially because the Justice Department’s investigation of his handling of the Clinton probe — started by the Obama administration — did him in.
Comey’s refusal to accept the department’s conclusion that he made major mistakes is reasonable grounds for dismissal of any employee in any circumstance, not least one who enjoys self-aggrandizing displays of independence.

It is understandable that his bosses, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and his recently confirmed deputy, Rod J. Rosenstein, lost confidence in Comey. They pushed for his ouster, and the president agreed.

Yet Comey could have been fired for other aspects of the Clinton probe. The failure to empanel a grand jury, the willingness to destroy evidence as part of immunity agreements, the absurd claim that no reasonable prosecutor would take the case — each action and assertion suggested a less-than-thorough probe designed to please his Democratic bosses.

Then there are the leaks of investigations that amounted to a flood of illegal disclosures about the Trump administration. Virtually everything we know about whether anyone in the Trump campaign colluded with Russian meddling in the election comes through leaks.

The names of those supposedly being investigated — Gen. Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Carter Page — were all made public through leaks. The fact that Sessions himself was wrong to tell the Senate he had not met with the Russian ambassador — we know that because of leaks to the Washington Post.

We know a computer server for Trump Tower was communicating with a Russian bank — because of leaks. Not incidentally, Hillary Clinton jumped on those leaks to insist Trump was guilty of collusion.

Only later did we learn — through leaks — that the FBI determined the server was sending spam.

Yet Comey adamantly insisted to Congress that he could not even confirm that he was investigating any or all of these leaks — and that was that.

Then there were the reports that Comey himself was furious that Trump had accused the Obama White House of “wire tapping” Trump Tower. How do we know Comey was furious? Take a guess.
Years ago, Comey let it be known to the liberal press that he had threatened to resign under President George W. Bush unless he got his way on a document related to the war on terror.

He also insisted on a special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case, which ended up convicting the wrong man in an enduring injustice.

That background made him a hero to Democrats, which is why Obama made him head of the FBI in the first place. Then he finally drove the Dems crazy, with Obama’s Justice Department investigating him and Clinton blaming him for her loss.

So Comey exits, forced off the stage after giving everybody he ever worked for legitimate reasons to be unhappy with his performance.

That is not a virtue.
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Re: Donald Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

Post by laklak » Wed May 10, 2017 7:29 pm

All politicians are venal, self-serving, dishonest, lying, cheating assholes. All of them, without exception.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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