Guvment Diet

[Forty Two]

You are bound to have Irish pubs in Paris but I cant remember seeing one.

They're there, but they only serve wine, and the band must sing the Irish drinking songs in French.

[Forty Two]

You'd probably think it was reasonable to have the government mandate warnings on packages of bacon that that bacon kills because it contains carcinogens and causes artery clogging.

I'm not the only one. The World Trade Organisation does too.

I'm sure it does. They're not big on enlightenment values.

A landmark Australian law on restrictive tobacco packaging has been upheld at the World Trade Organisation after a five-year legal battle, Bloomberg News reported on Thursday, citing two people familiar with the situation.

Such a ruling from the WTO has been widely anticipated as giving a green light for other countries to roll out similar laws, not only on tobacco but also on alcohol and unhealthy foods.

.... and down slope we go...

The Australian law goes much further than advertising bans and graphic health warnings enforced in many other countries.

The rules, introduced in 2010, ban flashy logos and distinctive-coloured cigarette packaging in favour of drab olive packets that look more like military or prison issue, with brand names printed in small standardised fonts.

That's what we want. A brave new world.

[Forty Two]

fuck off, pork ought to be mandatory, period.

.... but packaged in military issue olive drab packaging.

[rainbow]

fuck off, pork ought to be mandatory, period.

.... but packaged in military issue olive drab packaging.

Only if it is smoked.

[Hermit]

You'd probably think it was reasonable to have the government mandate warnings on packages of bacon that that bacon kills because it contains carcinogens and causes artery clogging.

I'm not the only one. The World Trade Organisation does too.

I'm sure it does. They're not big on enlightenment values.

The USA is one of its founding members. Is that why?

A landmark Australian law on restrictive tobacco packaging has been upheld at the World Trade Organisation after a five-year legal battle, Bloomberg News reported on Thursday, citing two people familiar with the situation.

Such a ruling from the WTO has been widely anticipated as giving a green light for other countries to roll out similar laws, not only on tobacco but also on alcohol and unhealthy foods.

.... and down slope we go...

That's what you libertarians think. You get that view from standing on your head.

The Australian law goes much further than advertising bans and graphic health warnings enforced in many other countries.

The rules, introduced in 2010, ban flashy logos and distinctive-coloured cigarette packaging in favour of drab olive packets that look more like military or prison issue, with brand names printed in small standardised fonts.

That's what we want. A brave new world.

I don't think advertising and packaging regulations amount to surveillance and control of people. You keep making the same mistake over and over. There's a name for it: Concept creep. Let me explain the term: Where a concept's boundaries are stretched and meaning dilated, it starts to encompass things that are quantitatively or qualitatively less extreme. One could also call it "definition creep".

Anyway, that's another one of my irony meters you've broken, but I'm getting used to it.

[Forty Two]

fuck off, pork ought to be mandatory, period.

.... but packaged in military issue olive drab packaging.

Only if it is smoked.

...that's another thing...there is an entire industry around smoked meats.... they sell meat smokers on the open market, and there are no warning labels on them.

I even bought a gas grill, and no warnings are included about the health risks of burned meat.

Where's Mr. Deltoid, when we need him. Whose going to save us from ourselves?

[pErvinalia]

You'd probably think it was reasonable to have the government mandate warnings on packages of bacon that that bacon kills because it contains carcinogens and causes artery clogging.

I'm not the only one. The World Trade Organisation does too.

A landmark Australian law on restrictive tobacco packaging has been upheld at the World Trade Organisation after a five-year legal battle, Bloomberg News reported on Thursday, citing two people familiar with the situation.

Such a ruling from the WTO has been widely anticipated as giving a green light for other countries to roll out similar laws, not only on tobacco but also on alcohol and unhealthy foods.

The Australian law goes much further than advertising bans and graphic health warnings enforced in many other countries.

The rules, introduced in 2010, ban flashy logos and distinctive-coloured cigarette packaging in favour of drab olive packets that look more like military or prison issue, with brand names printed in small standardised fonts.

TYRANNY!!!

[Forty Two]

Is there a limit to what you would think is an appropriate package design regulation imposed by the government?

Is there any interest in people being free to wrap a product in a manner they like?

If so, what are those limits and interests?

[laklak]

Is there honestly anyone on the planet who doesn't realize smoking is really fucking bad for you? Are they so fucking stupid they need to be reminded every time they open their ciggy pack? Are there honestly people who are so fucking stupid they think eating fast food every day is good for you? Does anyone actually believe a diet of lard, sugar, and artificial flavorings is fucking healthy?

The latest from here (mind you, Florida Man really is pretty fucking stupid): the Florida House wants to put warning labels on fucking Lotto tickets, saying gambling can be addictive and the odds of actually winning are tiny. No shit? I didn't know that.... The fucking State sells the fucking Lotto tickets. If YOU start selling Lotto it's called "the numbers" and you'll end up in jail, but the State does it and it's fine. Just make sure you put some warning labels on the fucking tickets so the fucking imbeciles buying the tickets realize they're being scammed.

Fuck me we're a stupid fucking species. We deserve whatever asteroid takes us out.

http://wfla.com/2017/04/26/florida-cons ... s-tickets/

[Forty Two]

If we would all just work toward the ideal society where everything is regulated for our own safety, we could then live in a utopia where nobody leaves the house without an approved reason (after all, each time you go out on the road, you run a risk -- so, should people just be allowed to go for a drive whenever they want)? Of course, not. There should be state-approved reasons for going out. Alternatively, each time we go out, we should be sent a text message warning: "Leaving the House May Result in Death, Illness or Injury in X% of persons leaving houses daily." That way, people can make an informed decision.

And, if you do go out and want to go to a restaurant, the amount you order should be controlled. Utah has it right - they have state regulations on how much alcohol can be used to make an Old Fashioned. One shot of whiskey, and that's it. No doubles. Two drink maximum, since that's the most doctors will recommend in a day. And, portion size should be strictly controlled, so restaurants don't serve large meals - 500 calorie dinner, and each meal must have vegetables and fruit included. And, of course, drink sizes should be controlled - and six ounces of soft drink only. We shouldn't glorify eating like we do in this country, so restaurants should be olive drab, like a mess tent, and tables should not be set to be "elegant" or "fancy." Benches and green trays will do. That way, people will view food for what it is, energy for their bodies, and not some thing to be enjoyed - that will help limit excessive intake of foods and liquids.

Going to the 7-Eleven, all drinks should be in drab green or brown cans or bottles, and no competition for the best "Monster" drink with bright colors and snappy marketing. It's thirst quenching only, so each 6 ounce can should be simply labeled informatively. No more "Coca Cola" urging people to buy them because of a century of marketing ploys, no. A beige can that says "Carbonated Sucrose/fructose Drink" (and then clearly label the rest of the ingredients, next to the warning "This Drink Makes You Die a Horrible Death, Sometimes, Eventually."

[Animavore]

The pictures on the cigarettes are getting very graphic in Ireland, yet it deters no one. I had a pack of Benson and Hedges the other day which had a picture of a whitened eye and it said smoking can cause blindness. I turned to some of the others in the smoking area and said, jokingly, "Iscthere anything cigarettes can't do?"

That got a laugh.

[Sean Hayden]

-wish I could smoke, sigh.

[pErvinalia]

Is there honestly anyone on the planet who doesn't realize smoking is really fucking bad for you?

Yes. Many children.

[pErvinalia]

If we would all just work toward the ideal society where everything is regulated for our own safety, we could then live in a utopia where nobody leaves the house without an approved reason (after all, each time you go out on the road, you run a risk -- so, should people just be allowed to go for a drive whenever they want)? Of course, not. There should be state-approved reasons for going out. Alternatively, each time we go out, we should be sent a text message warning: "Leaving the House May Result in Death, Illness or Injury in X% of persons leaving houses daily." That way, people can make an informed decision.

And, if you do go out and want to go to a restaurant, the amount you order should be controlled. Utah has it right - they have state regulations on how much alcohol can be used to make an Old Fashioned. One shot of whiskey, and that's it. No doubles. Two drink maximum, since that's the most doctors will recommend in a day. And, portion size should be strictly controlled, so restaurants don't serve large meals - 500 calorie dinner, and each meal must have vegetables and fruit included. And, of course, drink sizes should be controlled - and six ounces of soft drink only. We shouldn't glorify eating like we do in this country, so restaurants should be olive drab, like a mess tent, and tables should not be set to be "elegant" or "fancy." Benches and green trays will do. That way, people will view food for what it is, energy for their bodies, and not some thing to be enjoyed - that will help limit excessive intake of foods and liquids.

Going to the 7-Eleven, all drinks should be in drab green or brown cans or bottles, and no competition for the best "Monster" drink with bright colors and snappy marketing. It's thirst quenching only, so each 6 ounce can should be simply labeled informatively. No more "Coca Cola" urging people to buy them because of a century of marketing ploys, no. A beige can that says "Carbonated Sucrose/fructose Drink" (and then clearly label the rest of the ingredients, next to the warning "This Drink Makes You Die a Horrible Death, Sometimes, Eventually."

The thick edge of that wedge is pretty thick..

[Forty Two]

Is there honestly anyone on the planet who doesn't realize smoking is really fucking bad for you?

Yes. Many children.

....who in most places are not permitted to smoke, or at least not permitted to buy cigarettes...or, are children carefully reviewing product warnings and opting to make an informed decision not to smoke?