Syrian Sarin Attack - Inconsistencies

[pErvinalia]

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What a crock full of dung! Who are these "conspiracy theorists" that you speak of?...

Oh Galaxian, your ironies are delicious.

Nobody likes you Brian. Do us all a favour and vanish.

I like Brian. I strongly suspect no one like you, however.

[JimC]

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What a crock full of dung! Who are these "conspiracy theorists" that you speak of?...

Oh Galaxian, your ironies are delicious.

Nobody likes you Brian. Do us all a favour and vanish.

A bit rich, for someone whose avatar proclaims "everybody hates me"

Given your utterly repugnant views on most issues, this self characterisation is probably an excellent reflection of most member's attitude towards you...

[Galaxian]

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What a crock full of dung! Who are these "conspiracy theorists" that you speak of?...

Oh Galaxian, your ironies are delicious.

Nobody likes you Brian. Do us all a favour and vanish.

[JimC]

So, Galaxian, you hate black people too?

[pErvinalia]

Of course. They are just coloured Joos.

[Alan B]

Medialens

'An Impeachable Offence' - Professor Postol and Syria

It is hard to believe that just three weeks ago the entire corporate media was in uproar over Syria; specifically, about the need to 'do something' in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack in Khan Shaykhun, Idlib, Syria, on April 4. Guardian commentator George Monbiot summed up the corporate media zeitgeist:

'Do those who still insist Syrian govt didn't drop chemical weapons have any idea how much evidence they are denying?'

Monbiot linked to evidence supplied by Bellingcat, an organisation hosted by Eliot Higgins. In a 2014 letter to the London Review of Books, Richard Lloyd and Ted Postol, described by the New York Times as 'leading weapons experts', dismissed Higgins as 'a blogger who, although he has been widely quoted as an expert in the American mainstream media, has changed his facts every time new technical information has challenged his conclusion that the Syrian government must have been responsible for the sarin attack [in Ghouta, August 2013]. In addition, the claims that Higgins makes that are correct are all derived from our findings, which have been transmitted to him in numerous exchanges'.

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Postol has now challenged a White House report on the alleged chemical weapons attack in Idlib. He notes:

'The only source the document cites as evidence that the attack was by the Syrian government [air force] is the crater it claims to have identified on a road in the North of Khan Shaykhun.'

But Postol claims that the White House's photographic evidence 'clearly indicates that the munition was almost certainly placed on the ground with an external detonating explosive on top of it that crushed the container so as to disperse the alleged load of sarin'.

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Postol's conclusion could hardly be more damning:

'I have worked with the intelligence community in the past, and I have grave concerns about the politicization of intelligence that seems to be occurring with more frequency in recent times – but I know that the intelligence community has highly capable analysts in it. And if those analysts were properly consulted about the claims in the White House document they would have not approved the document going forward.'

'We again have a situation where the White House has issued an obviously false, misleading and amateurish intelligence report.'

Postol recently told The Nation:

'What I think is now crystal clear is that the White House report was fabricated and it certainly did not follow the procedures it claimed to employ.'

/continues
The plot thickens - it's getting muddier and muddier...

It would seem that the Western media is being played by the politicians and the media seem to be willing partners in the 'Fake News' and 'Alternative Facts' syndrome.

But then, hasn't this always been so?

[Hermit]

Has it occurred to anyone that it does not matter who perpetrated the Sarin attack? The Russians support the side that will kill anyone it regards as even a minor thread to its dictatorship. The USA supports the side that will kill anyone it that disagrees with its theology. The Syrian conflict is the epitome of clusterfuck.

[pErvinalia]

True, but it does matter. If the US government can be shown to be lying again with the aim of getting stuck in another quagmire in the middle east, then it will likely be punished much harder by the voters. If anyone is sick of US foreign misadventures, it's the US voting public. I know it apparently takes a lot to convince a Trump voter that they were taken for a long ride, but they won't have indefinite tolerance of lying in this sphere. Lying for Jesus, on the other hand, bring it on. Lying for the second amendment, bring it on. Lying about Democrats, bring it on..

[Hermit]

True, but it does matter. If the US government can be shown to be lying again with the aim of getting stuck in another quagmire in the middle east, then it will likely be punished much harder by the voters.

Different matter, and still wrong. Problem is, Trump is right: He could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue for no reason at all, and the dumbfucks who voted for him last November would still vote for him. Just last week a poll conducted by ABC News and the Washington Post found that 96 percent of those who supported him in last November's election say they would do it again today. They simply are impervious to facts.

Can you imagine any one among this forum's Trumpsters posting one day that they have now realised that they had voted for the wrong candidate? Look at the most prominent of them. Apart from one feeble expression of disappointment he keeps fabricating reasons why Trump is doing rather well, and yes, no failures to deliver are his fault. It's always the Democrats, the "Far Left", animosity of the mainstream media or somthing, something, something that is to blame. And just look at how well he is doing with his wall already. Yes, sheer denial is at work too.

[mistermack]

The Syrian conflict is the epitome of clusterfuck.

This is why cluster bombs are great for keeping the peace.

A bit like the Colt Peacemaker in the old West.