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Post by DRSB » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:59 am

JimC wrote:The radical imams in a small number of mosques are catalysts for radicalisation of young muslims.
The stubborn minority that imposes itself on the majority and ends up converting it. Nassim Taleb knows this only too well. Lebanon was Christian some 100 years ago, then the ration tipped and there was civil war.
On the other hand, countries where it is possible to forbid religions are worse than religions themselves, IMO. Mosques are part of the religion, much as I dislike them, I'd find it even more offensive to forbid them.

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Jim is not talking about banning Mosques but closing down those that are breaking the law by instigating violence.

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Post by JimC » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:10 am

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JimC wrote:The radical imams in a small number of mosques are catalysts for radicalisation of young muslims.
The imams would not find fertile ground among young muslims if the latter were not alienated from the bulk of society they live in. The catalysts are the xenophobic activists among us. Of course the gutter media play a role too. They promote a xenophobic mindset in the general public because sensationalism sells.

And yes, as NineBerry mentioned, it's a vicious circle.
Some truth in the alienation concept, but not enough to excuse the poison at the heart of Islam that infects a certain proportion...
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mistermack wrote:
NineBerry wrote:
mistermack wrote:
NineBerry wrote:Also both Bosnia and Albania are Muslim majority countries with good chance to join the EU.
Lots more Muslims in Germany at a stroke then.
And they breed like rabbits.
Bosnia 1.3 children per woman
Germany 1.5 children per woman
Albania 1.7 children per woman
USA 1.8 children per woman
Great Britain 1.8 children per woman
Turkey 2.1 children per woman
Source : NineBerry Apparently.
worldbank.org just about matches the data cited by NineBerry.
mistermack wrote:Anyway, the UK and US birth rates are hugely boosted by immigrants.
Source : mistermack Apparently.
mistermack wrote:And countries like Bosnia only record the ten percent that survive.
Source : mistermack Apparently.
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Post by mistermack » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:30 am

Exactly. At least my sources are reliable.
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mistermack wrote:my sources are reliable.
Cite them.
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World Bank = Marxists. :coffee:
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Hermit wrote:
mistermack wrote:my sources are reliable.
Cite them.
See the first sentence of his signature..
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Yes, extremists can be banned!
Russia Outlaws Jehovah's Witnesses
The Russian Supreme Court formally banned Jehovah's Witnesses on Thursday, labeling the group an extremist organization. The religious group in Russia will now be forced to dissolve.

The decision equates Russia's 175,000 Jehovah's Witnesses to terrorist groups like the Islamic State, and makes it illegal for congregations to meet or distribute literature.
https://themoscowtimes.com/news/jehovah ... tion-57649

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Re: Tayyip Erdogan

Post by NineBerry » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:24 pm

Absolutely stupid. JW are delusional fucktards, but they are no dangerous to anyone but themselves.

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Post by DRSB » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:45 pm

Somebody I know did not refrain from blood transfusion after an accident and his wife threw herself out the window for shame. These people have a way of love-bombing unstable individuals and getting them all boggled up.

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Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:27 pm

I'm not sure that's enough to treat them as terrorists, even if it's enough to want to dissolve that sect
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Post by mistermack » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:51 am

Svartalf wrote:I'm not sure that's enough to treat them as terrorists, even if it's enough to want to dissolve that sect
The phrase was "equates with". Could mean anything, and it's just the author's choice of words.

Ban the fuckers by all means. All religious indoctrination should be banned. Fuck em.
More plus points for Putin.

And if they don't want to ban religion in this country, they should at least remove all charity status from any organisation with religious connections.
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