Incitement

[Galaxian]

Of course, force is, in part, dependent on mass, so...

Incorrect. It is acceleration that is proportional to total applied force, and additionally, inversely proportional to mass. Do keep up with Newton's Laws...

F = M A ...
... F is always IN PART dependent on M.
I'm not incorrect.

You have no fucking idea. The magnitude of the acceleration is an effect of two independent causes, mass (inversely) and force (directly). Your artificial example simply forces acceleration to be a constant by fiat.

Forty Two is absolutely right. proved it to you: F = M x A. In other words F ∝ M , and, F ∝ A
Forty Two's numerical example is not artificial, it is a specific case. The equation quoted is general. So, following on from that, acceleration is not a constant, by fiat or otherwise. Acceleration is A ∝ F , and, A ∝ 1/M

[JimC]

Of course, force is, in part, dependent on mass, so...

Incorrect. It is acceleration that is proportional to total applied force, and additionally, inversely proportional to mass. Do keep up with Newton's Laws...

F = M A ...
... F is always IN PART dependent on M.
I'm not incorrect.

You have no fucking idea. The magnitude of the acceleration is an effect of two independent causes, mass (inversely) and force (directly). Your artificial example simply forces acceleration to be a constant by fiat.

Forty Two is absolutely right. proved it to you: F = M x A. In other words F ∝ M , and, F ∝ A
Forty Two's numerical example is not artificial, it is a specific case. The equation quoted is general. So, following on from that, acceleration is not a constant, by fiat or otherwise. Acceleration is A ∝ F , and, A ∝ 1/M

You also have no fucking idea. Acceleration is the effect, the mass of an object and the sum of the forces operating on it are the cause. end of story. The force on object is not "caused" by its acceleration, nor by its mass. It is the result of an interaction between the object in question and its environment.

[pErvinalia]

He's saying that for force to increase with mass, acceleration has to remain constant. But mass effects acceleration too.

[JimC]

He's saying that for force to increase with mass, acceleration has to remain constant. But mass effects acceleration too.

If you artificially create a situation where you both increase the force on an object, and increase the mass of the object at the same rate, then naturally the acceleration will be constant. That, however, is no indication of the causal connections that underpin Newton's Second Law...

[rainbow]

The equation quoted is general. So, following on from that, acceleration is not a constant, by fiat or otherwise. Acceleration is A ∝ F , and, A ∝ 1/M

I don't think this Fiat has much in the way of acceleration.

[pErvinalia]

He's saying that for force to increase with mass, acceleration has to remain constant. But mass effects acceleration too.

If you artificially create a situation where you both increase the force on an object, and increase the mass of the object at the same rate, then naturally the acceleration will be constant. That, however, is no indication of the causal connections that underpin Newton's Second Law...

Sorry, that was meant as a reply to the paranoid one. Bloody crapatalk and its refusal to refresh.

[mistermack]

In the real world, it depends on how the force is applied.

If I punch a polystyrene brick, and then punch a brick brick, I will quickly discover that the mass influences the resultant force.