Hate Crime Against White People

[Forty Two]

You can't have racism without different races.

Bullshit.

It is like saying you can't have religion without God/s.

If there were only one race, you could still have racism? Who would a person be racist against if there wasn't a different race?

It's nothing at all like saying you can't have religion without gods. What it is like, is saying that you can't be prejudiced against different religions without there being different religions.

[Forty Two]

First, you did not answer the question my question "how so?"

Make an effort. You didn't address that question to me.

Allow me to quote:

Doing your bit to maintain the racial divide there 42?

How so?

I absolutely addressed it to you, and you did not answer it. So, please do. How so? How am I doing my bit to maintain the racial divide? And, by all means, tell me what a "racial divide" is and how you define "race."

[Hermit]

You can't have racism without different races.

Bullshit.

It is like saying you can't have religion without God/s.

If there were only one race, you could still have racism? Who would a person be racist against if there wasn't a different race?

It's nothing at all like saying you can't have religion without gods. What it is like, is saying that you can't be prejudiced against different religions without there being different religions.

If there were but one god you'd still have people killing each other over which one is best. You've heard of the thirty year war I presume?

[Svartalf]

You can't have racism without different races.

Bullshit.

It is like saying you can't have religion without God/s.

all your need is markers to say "YOU folk are not part of MY group"

[Forty Two]

People with a marker are different than people without a marker. That's what makes a race, doesn't it? Markers? Skin color and other features?

You still need different races for there to be racism, don't you? If there weren't different skin colors, people couldn't be racist against people with different skin colors. Seems like a truism. I'm having trouble fathoming the controversy there.

[pErvinalia]

You can't have racism without different races.

Bullshit.

It is like saying you can't have religion without God/s.

If there were only one race, you could still have racism? Who would a person be racist against if there wasn't a different race?

What that person perceives is a different race. This is simple stuff. Rainbow's analogy is spot on.

[pErvinalia]

First, you did not answer the question my question "how so?"

Make an effort. You didn't address that question to me.

Allow me to quote:

Doing your bit to maintain the racial divide there 42?

How so?

I absolutely addressed it to you,

No you didn't, you addressed it to Peacock. Have you had too much Christmas eggnog?

[Brian Peacock]

You said it was a 'racial classification specifier'. I'm interested to know who or what body classifies racial specifiers and by what criteria that's all.

You said it was a "racial divide." I'm interested in what you mean by "race" such that I could be doing my best to perpetuate a "racial divide."

What is 'a race' if not a classification, but where do the specifications of the different classes come from?

You seem to know about these 'racial classification specifiers', so all I'm asking for is some hint as to the specifics of that classification. Can you elaborate?

Racial divides are concieved of, bolstered and perpetuated by those who maintain that a 'race' is a specific or discrete class. You've said that 'white' is a 'racial classification specifier' -- a specific racial class within, one presumes, the set of all races -- so what other race classes exist and on what basis is that determined?

What is a racial classification specifier and can you link to, list, or explicate the determinants which place individuals into one racial class over another?

You'll notice I'm basically asking the same question in a few different ways here. Hopefully this will increase the chances of it being answered.

[Svartalf]

actually, "race" indeed is a classification, as is any putting things in different groups, however subjective or specious the criteria...

a typical exemple of "race" is the artificial classification of dogs and horses into various "breeds".

[Jason]

I'm wondering if those 4 persons with darkly pigmented skin who were beating up that mentally disabled person with a pale pigment to his skin pondered over the nature of this social construct we call "race" as they were shouting "fuck white people" and beating him. Clearly if they only understood the arbitrary nature of the racial classification they invoked they might have settled on a more concrete one like "fuck pale skins." I wonder if it was their shouting of the term "white people" that made them racists and their action a hate crime?

I'm not sure, but lets continue to obliquely impute racism to 42. That seems like a fun deflection of reality.

[laklak]

Some people look white. Some people look black. Some you can't tell, so they're Mexicans.

[tattuchu]

I'm wondering if those 4 persons with darkly pigmented skin who were beating up that mentally disabled person with a pale pigment to his skin pondered over the nature of this social construct we call "race" as they were shouting "fuck white people" and beating him. Clearly if they only understood the arbitrary nature of the racial classification they invoked they might have settled on a more concrete one like "fuck pale skins." I wonder if it was their shouting of the term "white people" that made them racists and their action a hate crime?

I'm not sure, but lets continue to obliquely impute racism to 42. That seems like a fun deflection of reality.

[tattuchu]

Some people look white. Some people look black. Some you can't tell, so they're Mexicans.

Messicans? I hate Messicans! Well, except for Salma Hyek of course

[Brian Peacock]

[pErvinalia]

Some people look white. Some people look black. Some you can't tell, so they're Mexicans.