'All I Want for Christmas is White Genocide'

[rainbow]

Japan for the Japanese.

China for the Chinese.

India for the Indians.

Mexico for the Mexicans.

Israel for the Jews.

Africa for the Africans.

Arabia for the Arabs.

White countries for EVERYBODY!

Yeah... there's totally not anything going on, nothing to see here. Move along, Whitey.

Twats should go back to Twatland.

[cronus]

[pErvinalia]

Oh look, Crumple is posting a random music video.

[Hermit]

Do you prefer reading his random words?

[Svartalf]

Actually, his musical choices are not random, even if the video is...

[Brian Peacock]

If The Crumple didn't exist we'd have to program one from scratch.

[pErvinalia]

And it would be a virus.

[Forty Two]

...much of the criticism of his tax policy is just political gamesmanship, since we really don't know the details.

Trump lists enough concrete proposals here to say that criticism of his tax policy is not just political gamesmanship. For instance, he is flattening the income tax brackets, which is a very right wing thing to do.

Well, I guess our difference is in characterizing a flattening of tax brackests as "very right wing."

Pointing that out is not just political gamesmanship.

I think it is, but if you think flattening of tax brackets must be "right wing," then I admit you can conclude otherwise.

Overall, he relies on tax cuts to be offset by increased employment,

The tax cut/revenue increase rule is a valid concept in economics, not right or left wing. It sets forth a a curve where increasing tax rates will increase revenues to a point and at a diminishing rate until it reaches a certain point beyond which increasing rates will start to decrease revenues. The key question is whether the tax rate has passed that point.

a closing of loopholes

Closing loopholes is not "right wing" -- or, at least it depends on the loophole. Most loopholes are only available to those making well over average income (the main exception being the mortgage interest deduction). But, it simplifies the tax system to close loopholes, and one point my European friends have made many times is that they see the US system as exceedingly complex, and that over in Europe people file taxes on a single page document and it's real quick without deductions and exemptions and loopholes, and such. So, I fail to see how closing loopholes and simplifying the tax code is either left or right wing. Doesn't it depend on the details? If he's looking to close loopholes that help the higher income folks save on taxes, then isn't that good?

and a general improvement in the economy. Reagan and Bush tried that in the past, and it did not work.

It actually did work. In both instances the economy recovered. The Reagan years were called the Reagan Recovery, for example. No recovery is permanent, of course. But, the Reagan Recovery involved about 4% growth in GDP and the Obama Recovery has involved about 2% growth. And Reagan had a very positive cumulative net job growth (net of population growth) compared to the Obama Recovery having a negative cumulative net job growth (i.e. net loss, net of population growth).

As the Senate Budget Committee carefully documented in a 2014 report, 2 1/2 years after the start of the 1981 recession (it lasted 16 months), employment had fully recovered. Real GDP had fully recovered by the first quarter of 1983, and it grew by 22.4 percent within six years. The participation rate started growing shortly after the end of the recession.

Now compare this with the anemic recovery under Obama's tax, spend and regulate policies. Seven years into the recovery, the administration is touting 5 percent unemployment, dropping from over 10 percent after the recession, and some economic growth and job creation. However, a look at the numbers from the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis reveals the weakest economic expansion in the postwar era. For instance, total jobs didn't reach the pre-recession level until July 2014, 6 1/2 years after the recession's onset. Last quarter, economic growth was 0.5 percent, and in the quarter before that, it was 1.4 percent. Private-sector investment fell last quarter by 25.5 percent from the previous quarter. Despite falling gas prices, consumer spending fell, too. Unemployment is low mostly because people have given up on participating in the labor force. Moreover, many of those lucky enough to have a job are underemployed.

http://reason.com/archives/2016/05/05/a ... n-vs-obama

The consequences were that the rich got richer more quickly than before, the poor stayed where they were or, taking inflation into account, went backwards, and the budget deficit skyrocketed. I see no difference with Trump's scheme to see the likelihood of a different outcome. Again, pointing that out is not just political gamesmanship.

Under Obama, the rich have gotten richer, the poor have stayed where they were, or went backwards, and the debt is on track to to more than double during his tenure and will hit 20 trillion.

I can certainly see opposing Trump's positions. There are differing views on different things. But, to me, Trump is non-ideological. He doesn't care if he uses a tool labeled right wing or left wing -- he wants the economy to grow, he wants businesses to open in the US, he wants to increase the labor participation rate and keep the unemployment rate low at the same time, and he wants to restructure trade and foreign relations to make the US more secure economically and from a national defense standpoint. I don't think he is pushing anything "right wing" and his policies are a mix.

But, obviously, people see things differently.

[cronus]

Actually, his musical choices are not random, even if the video is...

[Animavore]

As Trump has shown, white people are largely shit. A white genocide might not be a bad idea.

I'm so glad I'm not white.

[pErvinalia]

I'm pretty sure you are as white as a massively overexposed digital photo.

I was white up until summer started. I'm now a shade of light brown.

[Animavore]

No. I'm not white. I'm Irish.

Being a white guy isn't about the colour of your skin. It's being a descendant of colonialists and having entrenched, racist views, a product of the rationalising of treating colonial subjects like utter shite.

I'm on the same side of the colonial divide as blacks, Asians and Middle-Eastern types and have a sense of justice which sides with them against white oppression, as a (former) fellow oppressed.

[Forty Two]

No. I'm not white. I'm Irish.

Being a white guy isn't about the colour of your skin.

I'm not white, I'm Danish. LOL. But wait, the Danes colonized Anglo-Saxon England.... but, the Anglo-Saxons are the pinnacle of white, so... I've hit a feedback loop...this does not compute! This does not compute!

It's being a descendant of colonialists and having entrenched, racist views, a product of the rationalising of treating colonial subjects like utter shite.

If that's the definition of white, then we have to go case by case to see which caucasians (a) are descended genetically from "colonialists," such that they can inherit the sins of their ancestors, and (b) quiz them on whether they have entrenched, racist views.... so, query, to be white do you need both of those factors, or does just one of the two factors suffice?

[Forty Two]

As Trump has shown, white people are largely shit. A white genocide might not be a bad idea.

I'm so glad I'm not white.

It's perfectly fine to extrapolate a racist generalization based on the conduct of one member of a racial group. Makes logical sense.

[pErvinalia]

No. I'm not white. I'm Irish.

Being a white guy isn't about the colour of your skin. It's being a descendant of colonialists and having entrenched, racist views, a product of the rationalising of treating colonial subjects like utter shite.

I'm on the same side of the colonial divide as blacks, Asians and Middle-Eastern types and have a sense of justice which sides with them against white oppression, as a (former) fellow oppressed.

yeah, but yer a cracker.