The Thread of BREXIT

[Svartalf]

So do our own senators affirm... and I believe them, senate has rejected many a bad law that our government had shoehorned through their pet commons.

At least the senatorial election calendar is not aligned on that for presidential elections like the legislatives are.

[Alan B]

Yesterday I was browsing through the papers at my local Morrisons (as one does) when this old geezer (not as old a geezer as me) next to me pointed to a headline about 'Hard Brexit' "That's what we want - the sooner the better," he said. I said something along the lines "We don't have an Empire any more with its cheap imports and cheap local labour, which made sense to join the EU." He said something about foreigners taking our jobs. I suggested that if it was a rule that UK employers had to offer the job to UK only people for one month before opening up to the rest of the world, then this perceived 'EU taking our jobs' bollocks wouldn't exist.
He then complained that there were not enough qualified UK people because of 'lack of training'. To which I rejoined "Well, that's nothing to do with the EU, is it? It's the fault of previous UK governments." He then wandered off muttering "It's a good job we have May, she's better than Cameron..."

He couldn't figure out that 'lack of training' - a UK problem - was a direct link to UK businesses filling the gaps with qualified forriners.

[Strontium Dog]

Yesterday I was browsing through the papers at my local Morrisons (as one does) when this old geezer (not as old a geezer as me) next to me pointed to a headline about 'Hard Brexit' "That's what we want - the sooner the better," he said. I said something along the lines "We don't have an Empire any more with its cheap imports and cheap local labour, which made sense to join the EU." He said something about foreigners taking our jobs. I suggested that if it was a rule that UK employers had to offer the job to UK only people for one month before opening up to the rest of the world, then this perceived 'EU taking our jobs' bollocks wouldn't exist.
He then complained that there were not enough qualified UK people because of 'lack of training'. To which I rejoined "Well, that's nothing to do with the EU, is it? It's the fault of previous UK governments." He then wandered off muttering "It's a good job we have May, she's better than Cameron..."

He couldn't figure out that 'lack of training' - a UK problem - was a direct link to UK businesses filling the gaps with qualified forriners.

Part of me hopes we do go for Hard Brexit, because cunts like the one you describe need a healthy dose of reality. If these oxygen thieves think it's hard to get an NHS doctor or dentist now, just wait until a full third of medical professionals have buggered off somewhere else.

[JimC]

My Brexit is getting hard just reading this thread...

[rainbow]

Yesterday I was browsing through the papers at my local Morrisons (as one does) when this old geezer (not as old a geezer as me) next to me pointed to a headline about 'Hard Brexit' "That's what we want - the sooner the better," he said. I said something along the lines "We don't have an Empire any more with its cheap imports and cheap local labour, which made sense to join the EU." He said something about foreigners taking our jobs. I suggested that if it was a rule that UK employers had to offer the job to UK only people for one month before opening up to the rest of the world, then this perceived 'EU taking our jobs' bollocks wouldn't exist.
He then complained that there were not enough qualified UK people because of 'lack of training'. To which I rejoined "Well, that's nothing to do with the EU, is it? It's the fault of previous UK governments." He then wandered off muttering "It's a good job we have May, she's better than Cameron..."

He couldn't figure out that 'lack of training' - a UK problem - was a direct link to UK businesses filling the gaps with qualified forriners.

Part of me hopes we do go for Hard Brexit, because cunts like the one you describe need a healthy dose of reality. If these oxygen thieves think it's hard to get an NHS doctor or dentist now, just wait until a full third of medical professionals have buggered off somewhere else.

Chortle. They can always come to Africa, we have very low cost medicine.

[Forty Two]

Is it bad for a European country not to want to join the EU?

How much shit should we be giving Norway, Iceland, Leichtenstein, Switzerland, Macedonia, Montenegro and Russia about this? Turkey, too, I guess. Shortsighted shits.

[DRSB]

So no harm done then!

EU negotiators will offer Brits an individual opt-in to remain EU citizens, chief negotiator confirms

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 65271.html

[Jason]

and [give] young people looking to flee an increasingly isolated UK greater choice over where to move to.

That's lovely.

[rainbow]

and [give] young people looking to flee an increasingly isolated UK greater choice over where to move to.

That's lovely.

Would you want a smelly Brit living next door and refusing to work, while demanding that we adopt their culture?

It happened in Africa, I must warn you!

[mistermack]

and [give] young people looking to flee an increasingly isolated UK greater choice over where to move to.

That's lovely.

It would be lovely. Instead of millions of the fuckers coming in this direction.
Can we start with the moslems?

[Svartalf]

and [give] young people looking to flee an increasingly isolated UK greater choice over where to move to.

That's lovely.

Would you want a smelly Brit living next door and refusing to work, while demanding that we adopt their culture?

It happened in Africa, I must warn you!

that's what happens in our southwest where whole villages that were otherwise depopulated have become british enclaves as wealthy brits bought retirement or vacation homes... we sincerely prefer smelly, non working but wealthy brits to smelly out of work and poor Africans.

[Brian Peacock]

This week, the House of Lords EU committee and its six sub-committees are publishing daily reports designed to underscore the high seriousness of issues raised by Brexit. Today’s first report of the six is about the Brexit challenge for Ireland. This is a good and deliberate piece of symbolism – British insularity too often takes a special toll in Ireland. But it is also more than that.

Brexit raises major questions about every aspect of the British-Irish relationship. These include the broad economic impact on two intertwined countries. More particularly there is the impact on the now softly enforced Irish land border of any future restrictions to the movement of goods, especially serious if the UK left the customs union, and of people. The implications for the common travel area between Ireland and the UK must also be considered, along with the future status, for instance in terms of voting rights, of UK and Irish citizens in one another’s countries. And then there is effect of Brexit on the stability of Northern Ireland, both in the context of structures underpinning the peace process and, just as important, from any sort of hardening of the Irish land border.

The Lords committee is absolutely right to back the Irish government’s view that these relationships require a unique solution within any wider Brexit settlement. The best way to achieve this, as the committee says, is for the EU and its member states to allow the UK and Irish governments to draft a bilateral agreement, along with the Northern Ireland executive, within that wider Brexit deal....

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... l-solution

Lords Select Committees: Brexit co-ordinated inquiries publication week resources.

[rainbow]

that's what happens in our southwest where whole villages that were otherwise depopulated have become british enclaves as wealthy brits bought retirement or vacation homes... we sincerely prefer smelly, non working but wealthy brits to smelly out of work and poor Africans.

[Brian Peacock]

Britain is naive to expect a “free lunch” in trade negotiations with the EU, according to a scathing House of Lords report that calls for a transition phase to ease the pain.

“The notion that a country can have complete regulatory sovereignty while engaging in comprehensive free trade with partners is based on a misunderstanding of the nature of free trade,” said the cross-party group of peers.

The report, the second of six parliamentary studies on the mechanics of Brexit out this week, also accuses the government of underestimating the consequences of its limited negotiating position.

“We recognise that the government is engaging with industry stakeholders but are not convinced that the level of engagement and expertise within government are commensurate with the scale of this unprecedented task, particularly given the government’s commitment to trigger article 50 by the end of March 2017,” wrote the Lords’ EU internal market and EU external affairs sub-committees....

... “The level of market access the UK is able to negotiate with the EU would depend in part on the extent to which it was willing to accept and adopt EU law or demonstrate equivalence with EU rules,” concluded the peers. “In the medium to long term the UK may have to continue to update its domestic law to be consistent with EU law.”

“Trade-offs will need to be made in whatever trading framework we eventually agree,” added the chairman of the EU internal market sub-committee, Larry Whitty. “While an FTA would provide the greatest flexibility, and no commitment to freedom of movement, there is no evidence that it could provide trade on terms equivalent to membership of the single market.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rds-report

[Scot Dutchy]

Brexit was the Bullingdon club's attempt to make a fool out of Farage (old money v. new money) but the plan was not to win which is why it is such enormous mess.