Healthcare... America and the rest

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Re: Healthcare... America and the rest

Post by Seth » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:32 pm

Tero wrote:Why we are heading to a single payer...but not Canadian..plan under Hillary.
Oops, looks like history fuck you in the ass...again.
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Post by Feck » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:45 pm

Why don't you boast about 'Merkin healthcare Seeth it's the 19th best in the world unless you count value for money then it's the 37th . Almost EVERY country that any sort of socialized healthcare has better care than the US.
If you want to compare global healthcare then the US is almost third world .
and I'm STILL laughing at this you fucking cretin
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Post by Seth » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:52 pm

Feck wrote:Why don't you boast about 'Merkin healthcare Seeth it's the 19th best in the world unless you count value for money then it's the 37th . Almost EVERY country that any sort of socialized healthcare has better care than the US.
If you want to compare global healthcare then the US is almost third world .
Only according to socialists who grade health care based primarily on whether it's socialized or not. In terms of actual quality and availability of quality health care the US is second to no one. That some people can't afford it doesn't mean they don't get it either, they do, by and large. But not everybody gets everything they want or need, nor should they. Health care is not a "right" because a right cannot exist if there is an obligation placed upon others to provide or facilitate it. Rights are individual freedoms of action that can be defended against interference by others and nothing more. Which is why YOUR "right" to health care doesn't exist because it requires two things that prevent it from being a right: it requires that someone in the health care industry labor involuntarily on your behalf to provide it to you, and it requires that someone else labor to pay for it if you cannot. No such rights exist anywhere, ever, because that's what's called "involuntary servitude" or "slavery," which is prohibited.

and I'm STILL laughing at this you fucking cretin
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Re: Healthcare... America and the rest

Post by Feck » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:06 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_ca ... _for_money
US health"care" costs more and is less efficient than almost everywhere else in the whole world .
Of course if you would like to correct wikipedia and WHO with your much more accurate information then go ahead I will wait until they have been better informed by you ..of course this might become a problem because of this
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Feck wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_ca ... _for_money
US health"care" costs more and is less efficient than almost everywhere else in the whole world .
Of course if you would like to correct wikipedia
Why would I bother, wikipedia is not a credible source of anything.
and WHO
The WHO is a quintessentially socialist organization dedicated to spreading socialized medicine so of course its going to rate non-socialized systems poorly because their criteria happen to weigh heavily in favor of socialized medicine even if it provides only shitty, poor-quality care...like Canada or the UK. I thought I'd made that particular bias in these sort of propagandistic "reports" clear already. Evidently you need to have it repeated to you again and again.
with your much more accurate information then go ahead I will wait until they have been better informed by you
It ain't my information, it's plain fact, as demonstrated by sick people, particularly rich sick people and sick foreign politicians, who come to the US to get medical care unobtainable in their own socialized medicine countries.
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Post by Hermit » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:17 am

Seth wrote:wikipedia is not a credible source of anything.
...whereas Breitbart, Infowars et al...
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Re: Healthcare... America and the rest

Post by Tero » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:22 am

Many people cured: socialism
Luxury care and delay of death at the end for a few weeks: America, for some part of it.

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Re: Healthcare... America and the rest

Post by JimC » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:09 am

Seth wrote:

...particularly rich sick people and sick foreign politicians...
Such a whore, America...
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
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Re: Healthcare... America and the rest

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:02 am

Tero wrote:How do other counties get around the mandate?
Germany:
Tax all employers
This was our old system. Looks alright on paper but gets very complicated in practice.
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Re: Healthcare... America and the rest

Post by Seth » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:47 pm

Hermit wrote:
Seth wrote:wikipedia is not a credible source of anything.
...just like Breitbart, Infowars CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, BBC et al are not...
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Re: Healthcare... America and the rest

Post by Seth » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:48 pm

JimC wrote:
Seth wrote:

...particularly rich sick people and sick foreign politicians...
Such a whore, America...
Hey, we invented most of the top-tier medicine and equipment so why shouldn't you pay through the nose to use it?

You don't like it, go find a cheap witch doctor to cure your ills.
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Re: Healthcare... America and the rest

Post by Seth » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:50 pm

Tero wrote:Many people cured: socialism
Only if you call sitting around suffering until you die because there's a thousand other people in line in front of you for an MRI a "cure," which I'm sure you do because socialist government thinks exactly that.
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Re: Healthcare... America and the rest

Post by Tero » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:36 pm

:funny:

But you must do what the Germans do. No lines.

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Re: Healthcare... America and the rest

Post by Seth » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:54 am

Tero wrote::funny:

But you must do what the Germans do. No lines.
Oh, I'm sure there are lines in Germany...neatly organized, obedient to a fault, uncomplaining and cattle-like in the extreme full of good Germans who wouldn't think to complain.

Alles in ordenung.
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