Corbyn or Smith - lay your best!

[Brian Peacock]

It's easy to pin that sentiment on Corbyn Rum, but the Labour MPs who thought the weekend of the Brexit vote was a good time to force him out of office have a lot to answer for imo. Corbyn may indeed not be the best person to lead the country, but at a time when the nation should have been focused on the ramifications of the Tories internal power struggles Labour MPs handed their opponents a massive free pass. It was an own goal that Corbyn had little part in, other than being on the receiving end of a good old fashioned political shoeing.

[pErvinalia]

It's easy to pin that sentiment on Corbyn Rum, but the Labour MPs who thought the weekend of the Brexit vote was a good time to force him out of office have a lot to answer for imo. Corbyn may indeed not be the best person to lead the country, but at a time when the nation should have been focused on the ramifications of the Tories internal power struggles Labour MPs handed their opponents a massive free pass. It was an own goal that Corbyn had little part in, other than being on the receiving end of a good old fashioned political shoeing.

Perhaps with a supportive cabinet now he might be able to make some gains on the Tories.

[Brian Peacock]

I hope he can really consign the past to the past and appoint a broad-base shadow cabinet. Of course the Tories are going to make hay with the, "He's a leader that even his own MPs couldn't support" sketch, but if he continues to talk about policy, as he has been, and holding the government to account, which he has had some success with, then his time won't be wasted - even if he is replaced at a later date with someone more, shall we say, palatable. He's also attracted a huge number of people to the Labour party, making it the biggest political organisation in Europe - many of them younger people. I hope he can tap into and utilise some of the hope, enthusiasm and energy. We need a new type of politics in the UK and we're not going to get if from the Conservative Party or from a Labour Party that presents itself only as a nicer version of the Conservative Party. The Lib-dems tried that for five years and look what happened to them.

[pErvinalia]

I hope he can really consign the past to the past and appoint a broad-base shadow cabinet.

Seriously?! Fuck that. We saw what happened last time he extended an olive branch.

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah, but at least MPs now understand that the Party they represent doesn't like that kind of thing - and they'll want to avoid de-selection by their local members at election time of course.

[Rum]

It's easy to pin that sentiment on Corbyn Rum, but the Labour MPs who thought the weekend of the Brexit vote was a good time to force him out of office have a lot to answer for imo. Corbyn may indeed not be the best person to lead the country, but at a time when the nation should have been focused on the ramifications of the Tories internal power struggles Labour MPs handed their opponents a massive free pass. It was an own goal that Corbyn had little part in, other than being on the receiving end of a good old fashioned political shoeing.

I don't lay the blame at Corbyns's feet as it happens. 'Circumstances' as they say. The net result of the balls up though is an unelectable opposition. I wish it wasn't so - I'm an old lefty myself, but that's what we've got now.

[Brian Peacock]

Hey, dont put youself down mate - you're not that left.

[Rum]

'Old' lefty, as I say. Most people drift towards the middle as they get older.

[rachelbean]

Have I ever told you that I love you, Brian?

Love, Rachel Evidentlytrotskybean

[JimC]

Watch out for ice picks then, Rachel...

It seems a very strange situation to me that there is such a massive difference between the clearly strong support for Corbyn from rank and file party members and the strong opposition from party MPs. Not a healthy situation for "moving forward", one would think...

[DaveDodo007]

The result is announced on Saturday.

Whose gonna..oh fuck it I don't really give a shit come to think of it.

Corbyn won and he beat the other unelectable gobshite by 65% of the vote. It is only the fact that the conservatives are neo con cuckservatives that I can't enjoy this victory.

[Brian Peacock]

Watch out for ice picks then, Rachel...

It seems a very strange situation to me that there is such a massive difference between the clearly strong support for Corbyn from rank and file party members and the strong opposition from party MPs. Not a healthy situation for "moving forward", one would think...

I would imagine that most of them just got on the band-wagon, at the behest of a motivated few, once they'd seen the cart was rolling downhill.

[Scot Dutchy]

He is still unelectable. Something the Corbynista's seem to just ignore.

[rachelbean]

"The Corbynistas", aka the large majority of the party

[Brian Peacock]

He is still unelectable. Something the Corbynista's seem to just ignore.

Why (to both parts)?