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Science is Sexist

Post by Forty Two » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:04 pm

Going full retard, a feminist professor says that science is sexist because it promotes the notion that knowledge can be obtained through reason, which is a masculine concept. http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/22/are-s ... minist-pro

Also, command words like "will" and "must" are sexist.

The scientific method is inherently discriminatory against women and minorities.

This kind of thing bolsters a suspicion that I've had that progressive feminist thinking comes to many of its conclusions on the basis that there is no objective knowledge, and that reason is not the way to get to the truth and the truth is not necessarily the same for two different people. It helps explain why they tend to use someone's subjective feelings as the arbiter of the truth of given events or allegations. It helps explain why they are dismissive of the rights of an accused person to defend himself in court -- the "truth" in, say, a rape case, can't be found in a reasoned, objective analysis of the "facts." The truth is just a competition between the two people's feelings.
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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by Svartalf » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:06 pm

and some wonder why feminists have a bad reputation :nono:
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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by cronus » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:09 pm

Many ideas in science are male in origin and should be abandoned. Gravity, the speed of light and evolution. All gotta go. We need a year zero with science. And Trump might be the one to deliver it? Is he a secret feminist?
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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by Forty Two » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:11 pm

...wait wait....

That's not mainstream feminism... my friends don't think that and they say they're feminists, so this must just be one more radical, weird thing that nobody really believes....

... #notallfeminists
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by Forty Two » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:15 pm

Crumple wrote:Many ideas in science are male in origin and should be abandoned. Gravity, the speed of light and evolution. All gotta go. We need a year zero with science. And Trump might be the one to deliver it? Is he a secret feminist?
Newton's Principia is a "rape manual" -- Harding, The Science Question in Feminism.

E=mc2 is a sexist equation, because it privileges the speed of light over other speeds....and science privileges the solid (male) over the liquid (female) in physics.... Luce Irigaray, feminist philosopher...
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Science is Sexist

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Forty Two wrote:...wait wait....

That's not mainstream feminism... my friends don't think that and they say they're feminists, so this must just be one more radical, weird thing that nobody really believes....

... #notallfeminists
It's like with islam, the radicals stain all the movement, including the reasonable ones, whom we'll assume to be a majority.
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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by Forty Two » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:32 pm

We assume it, but if these ideas are, indeed, considered ridiculous in feminist circles, why do you see no pushback from feminists against them? They really don't - and they basically tend to rely on these experts -- professors, philosophers -- for the principles that drive the movement.

And, these principles do seem to drive the movement. Look at the similar language, as I pointed out, used in the discussion of rape allegations. Believe the "victim" (begs the question). Reality is what people feel it is, not verifiable based on ascertainable facts.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:18 am

Forty Two wrote:...wait wait....

That's not mainstream feminism... my friends don't think that and they say they're feminists, so this must just be one more radical, weird thing that nobody really believes....

... #notallfeminists
I think it's pretty safe to say that most feminists aren't as fucking mental as this woman.
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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by cronus » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:40 am

Feminists are like skittles. There's lots of feminine feminists who only want the respect and good manners they do deserve. But in amongst those countless skittles there's a few who'd quite literally cut your balls off if your a man and talk man things like science and politics. You see that is our feminist problem. :coffee:
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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by Forty Two » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:08 am

pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote:...wait wait....

That's not mainstream feminism... my friends don't think that and they say they're feminists, so this must just be one more radical, weird thing that nobody really believes....

... #notallfeminists
I think it's pretty safe to say that most feminists aren't as fucking mental as this woman.
Are you sure....?
:funny:
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by Forty Two » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:11 am

Crumple wrote:Feminists are like skittles. There's lots of feminine feminists who only want the respect and good manners they do deserve.
Women in general already get far more built-in, automatic respect and good manners than men. If you treat a man rudely, it's one thing, but if you treat a woman rudely, it's considered a far more serious issue, culturally and legally. Rude treatment of a female can be sexual harassment, legally, depending on the circumstances. Culturally, rude treatment of a female is considered far worse than rude treatment of a male.
Crumple wrote: But in amongst those countless skittles there's a few who'd quite literally cut your balls off if your a man and talk man things like science and politics. You see that is our feminist problem. :coffee:
The problem is that the wackos you refer to are the ones pressing the issues.
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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by rainbow » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:22 pm

Forty Two wrote:
pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote:...wait wait....

That's not mainstream feminism... my friends don't think that and they say they're feminists, so this must just be one more radical, weird thing that nobody really believes....

... #notallfeminists
I think it's pretty safe to say that most feminists aren't as fucking mental as this woman.
Are you sure....?
Yep.
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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by JimC » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:56 am

Forty Two wrote:Going full retard, a feminist professor says that science is sexist because it promotes the notion that knowledge can be obtained through reason, which is a masculine concept. http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/22/are-s ... minist-pro

Also, command words like "will" and "must" are sexist.

The scientific method is inherently discriminatory against women and minorities.

This kind of thing bolsters a suspicion that I've had that progressive feminist thinking comes to many of its conclusions on the basis that there is no objective knowledge, and that reason is not the way to get to the truth and the truth is not necessarily the same for two different people. It helps explain why they tend to use someone's subjective feelings as the arbiter of the truth of given events or allegations. It helps explain why they are dismissive of the rights of an accused person to defend himself in court -- the "truth" in, say, a rape case, can't be found in a reasoned, objective analysis of the "facts." The truth is just a competition between the two people's feelings.
These sort of absurdities are not confined to fringe feminism, they are rife through all the New Age bullshit.
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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:46 am

pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote:...wait wait....

That's not mainstream feminism... my friends don't think that and they say they're feminists, so this must just be one more radical, weird thing that nobody really believes....

... #notallfeminists
I think it's pretty safe to say that most feminists aren't as fucking mental as this woman.
Ah, but now we've been told that this sort of stuff apparently 'drives the movement' we can't make that kind of qualification without being #notrealfeminists
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Re: Science is Sexist

Post by Svartalf » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:00 am

then I'll discard the feminist tag, I'll just strive to be an equalist
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