The Donald-thread

[Tero]

Hillary's foundation donations and "seeing the secretary" does not amount to lies. Trumps deceitful business practices made Trump millions at my expense as taxpayer. I am not aware of Hillaries explanations about this and that costing me anything.

Oh, well, you'll have to specify the lies. Generalizing with "deceitful business practices" tells us nothing more than generalizing about Hillary's deceitful practices in government. WHAT deceitful practices are you referring to which are "lies."

Pretty much all that comes out of Trump's mouth, 25 million jobs, wall, insults, exaggerations. He's not going to do anything. Put gold curtains in Oval Office and solid gold toilet seats.

[Tero]

The media loves this election. They secretly love Trump because hating trump sells papers.

Should Trump become president, his stunts will entertain for about a year. He will resign his third year just before impeachment.

[Forty Two]

Hillary's foundation donations and "seeing the secretary" does not amount to lies. Trumps deceitful business practices made Trump millions at my expense as taxpayer. I am not aware of Hillaries explanations about this and that costing me anything.

Oh, well, you'll have to specify the lies. Generalizing with "deceitful business practices" tells us nothing more than generalizing about Hillary's deceitful practices in government. WHAT deceitful practices are you referring to which are "lies."

Pretty much all that comes out of Trump's mouth,

Again, that's just a big nothing. I can say the same about Hillary.

25 million jobs,

What about 25 million jobs is a lie? What did he say?

wall,

"wall" is not a lie. He wants to build a wall, but so what? That's not a lie. And, the wall is half built or more than half built already. Obama has been continuing the wall-building that's been going on for many years now, and started before Obama became President. They are constantly extending the wall.

insults,

I thought we were talking about lies.

exaggerations.

Every politician exaggerates. Like when Hillary claims to land in Bosnia under sniper fire. Just a misstatement and exaggeration. Or, when she says there was no confidential information on her server, even though there was -- an "exaggeration." LOL.

But, go ahead - specify one.

He's not going to do anything. Put gold curtains in Oval Office and solid gold toilet seats.

Says you. But, you have not identified a single lie he's told. Look. You can hate the guy. You can distrust him - you can think he's full of shit and won't do anything he says he wants to do. But, that's not the same thing as lying. A lie is something a person says. It is a statement made by a person which is intentionally false when made.

Just because Obama, for example, says something that doesn't happen, or fails to follow through on something, that doesn't mean he lied about it. And, when he's mistaken about stuff, he's not lying.

So, if he lies so often -- all the time - everything he says -- etc. - then why can't you just cut and paste a quote showing his lie, and the evidence that shows his statement was demonstrably false when made. I won't ask you to prove his "intent." But, you haven't even identified something he actually said that was shown to be "false."

Now, I'm pretty sure he's human, so you should be able to find something that he's said that was false. We all say things that are false from time to time. The devil is, of course, in the details and what the person's false statement was all about, what context it was in, etc. But, it's pretty weak to sit there declaring that the guy's every utterance is bald faced lie and yet you seem determined not to specifically identify a single one.

[Tero]

These lies about things he will do
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic ... nald_Trump

Never kept his promises before, why start now? He can just get a lawyer and sort it out. "I did not really mean...a wall."

[Forty Two]

These lies about things he will do
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic ... nald_Trump

Never kept his promises before, why start now? He can just get a lawyer and sort it out. "I did not really mean...a wall."

Come on Tero. I clicked on that link it's a bunch of summaries of political positions. The opponent's political positions are not "lies" even if one thinks they are improper and/or unobtainable. I can link you to Hillary's political positions and I would be just as justified in saying that she won't fulfill them either. She, like most politicians, don't keep all their promises, and they almost invariably overpromise.

Here are series of about 5 lies that Clinton told about her emails --

These are truly lies because she made specific statements which were, in fact, shown to be demonstrably false when made.

Here is more -- where Clinton says she never sent or received classified information, and the FBI found that there were 110 emails in 52 email chains that AT THE TIME THEY WERE SENT contained classified information --

Speaking about Donald Trump she stated "Donald Trump does not make a thing in the United States." False. Trump hats, wine and water, among other things, come from the US.

Speaking of Mike Pence, Hillary said that "unlike Tim Keane who invested in education, Mike Pence slashed education funding." This was false, because Mike Pence increased funding for education.

She said her email practices were "allowed," which was false. They were not. Even though she was not criminally prosecuted, her practices were a violation of the document control rules.

[Tero]

I don't see any lies. Must be her Alzheimer's.

[Forty Two]

I don't see any lies. Must be her Alzheimer's.

LOL. She's outright saying things that aren't true. Either she really believes them to be true, and she's stupid/crazy, or she's lying.

Here's another ""We now have driven (health care) costs down to the lowest they've been in 50 years." - That's just flat out false. Is she lying, or just pig ignorant?

She said ISIS is "going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists." - false. Wrong. Is she lying, or just pig ignorant?

She said - "The gun industry is "the only business in America that is wholly protected from any kind of liability." - false. Just flat out wrong. Is she lying, or just pig ignorant?

[Tero]

So, sue the gun makers for putting guns in the hand of psychiatric patients.

[Forty Two]

So, sue the gun makers for putting guns in the hand of psychiatric patients.

I'm busy suing knifemakers for putting knives in the hands of psychiatric patients.

[Forty Two]

Hillary said "we now have more jobs in solar than we do in oil." False. Is she lying, or just pig ignorant.

She said white people are three times more likely than black people to get mortgage loans, even if they have the same credentials. That's false. It's just made up. She's full of it.

She seems like a pathological liar.

[DaveDodo007]

Trump rule 1: Send money to Trump and Trump keeps it

The report, citing tax records, said Trump had not made a single donation to his charity since 2008 and sometimes used money from others through the foundation to pay off legal expenses.

The money relating to those expenses, which reportedly amounted to $258,000 from the Trump Foundation, may have violated "self-dealing" laws that prohibit nonprofit leaders from using charity money for self-benefit or the benefit of their for-profit businesses, according to The Post.

"I represent 700 nonprofits a year, and I've never encountered anything so brazen," Jeffrey Tenenbaum, who advises charities at the Venable law firm in Washington, told The Post, later describing the details as "really shocking."

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t ... ion-2016-9

Trump Rule 2: sign deal with Trump and you will end up giving money to Trump, no matter what the contract says

Lol, take a good look at the Clinton Foundation and get back to me.

People have taken a good look, and have found fuck all.

Fuck all is right just ask Haiti.

[DaveDodo007]

Looks like the woman who Trump raped as a child 20 years-ago has dropped her lawsuit, and has filed a new one, adding another witness.

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/woman- ... w-witness/

But let's talk about Hillary having a case of the sniffles.

Let's forget Billy boy and how Hillary called the women he raped trash and how she defended him (not to even mention the lolita express). If you really want to sink into the gossip gutter to defend the Clintons reality is not your friend.

I'm not defending anyone. I'm pointing out the complete and utter failure of the MSM to cover Trump and all his deeds, while at the same time splashing the pages with trivialities related to Hilary.

It also trashes your assertion the MSM sides with Hillary and picks on Trump. Quite the opposite.

What ever you are smoking must be worth its weight in gold.

[DaveDodo007]

The clinton foundation is a model of keeping track and reporting:
http://www.openendowment.org/organizati ... 31-1580204
Program Services is the line that says what they spent on their target programs

If right minded people want to support it and are also supporting Hillary, fine. She will make them ambassadors when they quit as CEOs. Standard republican and democrat practice.

Pay for play = Standard republican and democrat practice. Are you for real?

[Tero]

It is not a secret. The Oreck guy paid his dues and was awarded by Obama the amabassadorship,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_J._Oreck

[Forty Two]

Dude, nobody gives $1.1 million dollars because they think a candidate or politician has the best interests of the little guy at heart. I mean, the defense of this practice because it's been a common political corruption for generations is ridiculous. It's corruption. They're selling appointments. Everyone knows it. It's not something unique to the Democrats. It's not a slam on them in particular. Both parties do it and both parties are just as bad for doing it.

The thing is, Trump won't owe very many people anything. That's why the elite/establishment folks don't like him. Do you think they give a fuck about his class and decorum? Of course not. They'd love him if he was in their pocket.