Election 2016 Thread

[DRSB]

[pErvinalia]

How many wars have America started? How many has it finished without the help of many other countries of world? Thank you America for screwing the world.

Good question. How many?

37.5

[pErvinalia]

Huh -- guy serves papers on the Democratic National Comittee, found dead....

A guy was about to testify against the clintons, and he died by crushing his own throat, accidentailly....

Democratic staffer Seth Conrad Rich was murdered in an affluent neighborhood, and the killer took nothing from him, leaving his wallet, money, etc. --

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08 ... nc-papers/

Is there any dead person the Clintons haven't killed?

[Forty Two]

LOL. Exactly.

Now let's make a list.

"wars started by the United States" vs. "wars started by the formerly colonial powers of Europe."

I found it a tad interesting that a Dutch boy would comment about one country or another fucking with the world. In proportion to size, Holland was pretty good at fucking with the world. indonesia.... Africa.....

[Forty Two]

Huh -- guy serves papers on the Democratic National Comittee, found dead....

A guy was about to testify against the clintons, and he died by crushing his own throat, accidentailly....

Democratic staffer Seth Conrad Rich was murdered in an affluent neighborhood, and the killer took nothing from him, leaving his wallet, money, etc. --

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08 ... nc-papers/

Is there any dead person the Clintons haven't killed?

Who said the Clintons killed them?

I'm sure only Republicans kill politically problematic individuals....

Just like rigging elections. When you allege a conspiracy that the Bush's and Karl Rove rigged elections and hijacked the voting machines, etc., it's perfectly reasonable. If someone says the election might be rigged against Trump, then it's an affront to the esteemed electoral process.... couldn't POSSIBLY be any bias or rigging toward Hillary Clinton! That's beyond the pale! The Democratic Primaries showed proved that!

[Scot Dutchy]

LOL. Exactly.

Now let's make a list.

"wars started by the United States" vs. "wars started by the formerly colonial powers of Europe."

I found it a tad interesting that a Dutch boy would comment about one country or another fucking with the world. In proportion to size, Holland was pretty good at fucking with the world. indonesia.... Africa.....

Everybody did it and the Netherlands as always was fighting away above its weight but since WW2 only one seems to cause so much conflict and tends to walk away leaving the mess behind.

[Brian Peacock]

Granada. The US started and finished that one all on their own.

[laklak]

Don't forget Panama. Though since they were in effect a colony we could call that "disciplining" them. Like the Sepoy Mutiny.

[Forty Two]

LOL. Exactly.

Now let's make a list.

"wars started by the United States" vs. "wars started by the formerly colonial powers of Europe."

I found it a tad interesting that a Dutch boy would comment about one country or another fucking with the world. In proportion to size, Holland was pretty good at fucking with the world. indonesia.... Africa.....

Everybody did it and the Netherlands as always was fighting away above its weight but since WW2 only one seems to cause so much conflict and tends to walk away leaving the mess behind.

If you call massacring and committing genocide against aboriginal peoples armed with spears and stick to be "fighting above your weight," then sure.

Since World War 2 you say?

Let's see - after world war 2, the US was in Korea (along with the Netherlands, I might add), but that war was started by the North Koreans and the Chinese. The US didn't start that shit. Korea was conquered by the Japanese, and then at the end of WW2 the communists took North Korea, and the US/UK/allies took south Korea -- took it from the Japanese. The US/UK/allies, however, liberated South Korea, while the communists enslaved North Korea. The North invaded the south and the US did the lion's share of the defending of south Korea and has been since 1953.

In Vietnam, the US made a bad decision. There was a long running war where France was desperately trying to hold on to its colonial holdings in Asia, and then France finally suffered a huge defeat at Dien Bien Phu. They were going to pull out, and the US went in to defend south Vietnam from the communist north, and that war was the communists, again, invading the south. It was unfortunate to get involved in that mess, but make no mistake, that was a creation of European colonialism, with the French having held Vietnam and surrounding areas of "French Indochina" since the 1800s. The US didn't start it. We entered it and paid a big price.

Then in 1990 or 91 iraq invaded Kuwait, and the US took the lead in liberating Kuwait. Whatever you think about the war, we didn't start it.

In Bosnia and Kosovo, there were hostilities going on where NATO became involved, of course led by the US, to try to keep people from being massacred and wiped out. Those wars were started by the Serbs and such. The US came in to help.

In 2001, the US was attacked and we went to war as a result - Afghan War.

In 2003 -well, you got us there. We started that war with Iraq. Although legal arguments can be made that there was only a cease fire after the 1991 Gulf War, and that Iraq violated the cease fire, and shot at allied planes and such, and failed to abide by UN resolutions -- I think in fairness, the US has to be credited with starting that one.

In 2011, the US went into Libya -- who started that one, though? The French? Brits? Who? I'll leave that to you. Remember, Obama was leading from behind...

War on ISIS or ISIL? Did we start that one?

Just trying to puzzle it out here. I guess maybe Grenada - a couple day mission against cuban forces in Grenada. Panama? To pick up and arrest Manuel Noriega. Sure, we started those. But, are they even wars? If we're going to count those as wars, we can. But, then then same will go for other countries.....

[Scot Dutchy]

It does not need much to get the US fighting does it; a few lies and untruths are usually enough.

[Forty Two]

It does not need much to get the US fighting does it; a few lies and untruths are usually enough.

To which wars do you believe that assertion applies?

[Sean Hayden]

You'll never convince him Forty Two. Heck, if the British can walk lockstep with the US on her adventures while publicly decrying nearly everything we've ever done, what hope is there of convincing lesser players that we're not evil?

[DaveDodo007]

The one that should be locked away in a safe place for his own good is Trump.

Want to back up that assertion with, you know, evidence. Especially since anybody who tries to investigate the Clinton's corruption ends up dead in the most bizarre manner possible.

[DaveDodo007]

He is a bit late as the primaries are over.

[Brian Peacock]