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Re: Munich Shootings

Post by rainbow » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:04 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
eRvin wrote:Social darwinism. Sounds like something certain right wing nut jobs might subscribe to... :coffee:
What you mean like China and planned parenthood in the USA. What a bunch of right wing nutjobs. :roll:
No DaveDildo, more like the Nazi/Libertarian idea of Eugenics.
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Post by Seth » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:13 pm

An armed crook and his teenage getaway driver tried to stick up a bunch of Pokemon Go players at an apartment complex in Las Vegas yesterday. One of the players pulled out HIS gun and shot the crook dead instead.

See what happens when good guys have guns too?
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Re: Munich Shootings

Post by Seth » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:13 pm

eRvin wrote:That's not social darwinism. :fp:
Dafuck it ain't.
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Re: Munich Shootings

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:16 pm

Yes yes, reality is irrelevant. :roll:
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Re: Munich Shootings

Post by Seth » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:23 pm

JimC wrote:Social darwinists advocated positions such as the following:

1. Individuals and companies compete in the marketplace in an identical way to individual organism competing for resources, then out-breeding their rivals. Natural is conflated with good.
No it's not, it's merely an observation that competition improves the quality of the competitors by weeding out the weak and stimulating the rest to more industrious efforts at success, which in a capitalist free-market system is virtually unlimited, as Bill gates and Mark Zuckerberg prove.

What's stupid is the leftist notion that socialism is "good" merely because it uses the word "social." It's a political system that's as antisocial as it can possibly get.
2. Poor people should be given no assistance, as they are poor because they are failures in the race to succeed which they take to be human society.
I've no problem with poor people being given assistance so long as the assistance is given (and paid for) voluntarily by those to whom it is important to assist the poor. What I object to, and what conservatives object to is the liberal/Marxist/Progressive penchant for robbing the rich to give to the poor, but not for the purposes of helping the poor become un-poor but for the purpose of hopelessly enslaving them to the government slop-trough by controlling their food, shelter, medical care and everything else through the carrot and stick of government-funded assistance...which is doled out just enough to keep them from rioting and lynching politicians but not enough to raise them up out of poverty because if they find out just how much they can prosper in a free-market capitalist society if they apply themselves they will turn against government handouts as the golden chains of slavery they actually are.
3. People with any form of genetic disability should be forcibly sterilised.
That's a lefty position propounded first by socialists like the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger and her ilk. Eugenics has never been a conservative position. It has been a socialist/Marxist/Progressive position for more than a hundred years however.
All these ideas resonate best with right-wing rather than left-wing thinking.
Bullshit.
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Re: Munich Shootings

Post by Seth » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:24 pm

eRvin wrote:Yes yes, reality is irrelevant. :roll:
To you it certainly seems to be. Or perhaps just impenetrably complex.
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Re: Munich Shootings

Post by Seth » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:34 pm

rainbow wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
eRvin wrote:Social darwinism. Sounds like something certain right wing nut jobs might subscribe to... :coffee:
What you mean like China and planned parenthood in the USA. What a bunch of right wing nutjobs. :roll:
No DaveDildo, more like the Nazi/Libertarian idea of Eugenics.
Show me anywhere that Libertarianism suggests or supports eugenics.

Eugenics was the brain-child of leftists and Marxists way back before Hitler.

Here's some quotes from Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger, a dedicated Marxist:

“We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.”

“I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan.”

“They are…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ’spawning… human beings who never should have been born.”

“Birth control is nothing more or less than…weeding out the unfit.”

“Human beings who never should have been born at all.”

“I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world.”

“But for my view, I believe that there should be no more babies.”
Already imbued with her husband's leftist politics, Margaret Sanger also threw herself into the radical politics and modernist values of pre-World War I Greenwich Village bohemia. She joined the Women's Committee of the New York Socialist party, took part in the labor actions of the Industrial Workers of the World (including the notable 1912 Lawrence Textile Strike and the 1913 Paterson Silk Strike) and became involved with local intellectuals, left-wing artists, socialists and social activists, including John Reed, Upton Sinclair, Mabel Dodge and Emma Goldman.[11] Source: Wikipedia
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Re: Munich Shootings

Post by NineBerry » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:34 pm

Seth wrote:An armed crook and his teenage getaway driver tried to stick up a bunch of Pokemon Go players at an apartment complex in Las Vegas yesterday. One of the players pulled out HIS gun and shot the crook dead instead.

See what happens when good guys have guns too?

Posted: Aug 06, 2015, PGO was released a few weeks ago. Story doesn't match.

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Re: Munich Shootings

Post by Seth » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:58 am

NineBerry wrote:
Seth wrote:An armed crook and his teenage getaway driver tried to stick up a bunch of Pokemon Go players at an apartment complex in Las Vegas yesterday. One of the players pulled out HIS gun and shot the crook dead instead.

See what happens when good guys have guns too?

Posted: Aug 06, 2015, PGO was released a few weeks ago. Story doesn't match.
Bad data on the website. The story is current. It's an AP story.
ul 26, 3:27 PM EDT

Man faces conspiracy, assault charges in Pokemon Go shootout

LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Police say an armed man accused of trying to rob Pokemon Go players in Las Vegas before a shootout left him and a player injured now faces charges of conspiracy, robbery, battery and assault with a deadly weapon.

Authorities said Tuesday that 18-year-old Elvis Campos was taken to jail after being treated at the hospital for a gunshot wound to the back.

Campos was shot early Monday as he was demanding the possessions of six people at a park east of downtown as they were playing the popular smartphone game, which sends players to physical locations to "catch" virtual Pokemon characters.

The two sides exchanged fire after a player who has a concealed weapons permit drew his own gun.

A juvenile with Campos at the time also faces charges.

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Re: Munich Shootings

Post by NineBerry » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:16 pm

According to research by the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung the Munich gunman was proud to have been born on the same day as Hitler and hated Turks and Arabs.

The 18-year-old gunman who killed nine people before killing himself in Munich on Friday, was proud to be born on April 20th 1998 and thus share a birthday with Adolf Hitler, the FAZ has been told by people close to the investigation.

David Sonboly, who was born to Iranian parents in Munich, was allegedly proud to be German and Iranian and which he considered to make him “Aryan,” people who knew him told investigators.

According to Nazi ideology Iran is the homeland of the Aryan “race.”

Sonboly hated Turkish people and Arabs and nurtured a feeling of superiority towards them, the FAZ reports.

Investigators are now looking into whether he intentionally killed foreigners. Seven his nine victims were Muslims and all nine of them had migrant backgrounds.

[...]
http://www.thelocal.de/20160727/munich- ... ia-reports

Wouldn't overstress this, though. Young school shooters always look for some kind of ideology to base their hatred towards society. The guy could as well have chosen Islamism or some misunderstood Darwinism (as previous school shooters did).

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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:22 pm

Aye, I think we can categorise this poor lad as disturbed rather than ideologically driven.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:27 pm

So, this was Islamic terrorism, right? :think:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:28 pm

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Post by Svartalf » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:39 pm

eRvin wrote:So, this was Islamic terrorism, right? :think:
Muslamic terrorists are deranged, but the kid who did this wasn't deranged THAT way, heck, he even converted to chretinity
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:40 pm

But Dodo said it was.
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