Problematic Stuff

[Forty Two]

I guess that means the Republican nominee will be the most liberal candidate and the Democrat nominee will be the most conservative.

Between the two of them, yes.

“No more sweatshops or pollution havens stealing jobs from American workers,” -- Trump website.

"Caitlyn Jenner can use whatever bathroom she wants at Trump Tower," - Trump, when asked what bathroom Caitlyn Jenner would be allowed to use at Trump Tower.

He backs a national healthcare system.

Tariffs on goods imported from sweatshop and low wage companies.

O.k. with subsidizing Planned Parenthood - said it does lots of good for women.

Opposed the iraq War - Hillary voted in favor.

Opposed the Libyan War - Hillary's baby.

For all their bluster about bombing the Islamic State into oblivion, neither Donald J. Trump nor Senator Ted Cruz of Texas has demonstrated anywhere near the appetite for military engagement abroad that Clinton has.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magaz ... .html?_r=0

Hillary Clinton is the last true hawk left in the race.

For those who know Clinton’s biography, her embrace of the military should come as no surprise.

If you want a neocon war-hawk, vote Clinton.

[Scot Dutchy]

Do you mean that Trump thought? What with?

[Forty Two]

Doesn't matter - I am all for a Trump Presidency, if only for the fact that we get at least 4 years of Melania and Ivanka Trump on the public stage. Compare that to Bill and Chelsea Clinton, and it's a no-brainer.

[DaveDodo007]

Blaming Obama is the new blaming Bush. Even Bill is doing it. He claims he was talking about Republicans, but we know he needs to dis O'Bammy for the Hillster to stand a chance.

Get with the program as it is now:

Thanks Brexits.

[Forty Two]

MIsogyny is a hate crime in Nottinghamshire -- http://www.itv.com/news/central/2016-07 ... ate-crime/

And, an example of misogyny is an uninvited or unwanted sexual advance, or even just unwanted or uninvited verbal engagement. Because walking up to a woman and engaging with her verbally is misogyny (unless she wanted to be engaged with or invited the engagement), as is making an sexual advance on a woman.

How often do people "invite" verbal engagements? Don't we as humans normally walk up to people and talk with them? And, if one is in a pub or a cafe or something, is it misogyny to walk up to a woman and attempt to strike up a conversation? Or, is it only an example of a man's misogyny if the woman didn't want to be approached?

The idea of these things being examples of misogyny as a "hate crime" seems a bit of a dilution of the term "hate crime."

[Animavore]

And, an example of misogyny is an uninvited or unwanted sexual advance, or even just unwanted or uninvited verbal engagement.

It clearly says -

Unwanted or uninvited physical or verbal contact or engagement

But nice quote mine.

I take it to mean when a pest won't take a hint and fuck off.

[pErvinalia]

MIsogyny is a hate crime in Nottinghamshire -- http://www.itv.com/news/central/2016-07 ... ate-crime/

And, an example of misogyny is an uninvited or unwanted sexual advance, or even just unwanted or uninvited verbal engagement. Because walking up to a woman and engaging with her verbally is misogyny (unless she wanted to be engaged with or invited the engagement), as is making an sexual advance on a woman.

How often do people "invite" verbal engagements? Don't we as humans normally walk up to people and talk with them? And, if one is in a pub or a cafe or something, is it misogyny to walk up to a woman and attempt to strike up a conversation? Or, is it only an example of a man's misogyny if the woman didn't want to be approached?

The idea of these things being examples of misogyny as a "hate crime" seems a bit of a dilution of the term "hate crime."

The way I understand this thing is that by classifying it as a "crime" it allows the cops and support services to provide certain services to the woman. It's not going to be literally a crime, as the police don't have the ability to change the way the law is interpreted.

[Brian Peacock]

It just means it gets logged as an incident, a so-called 'hate incident' under the terms of the Public Order Act 1986 incorporating the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 and the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 amendment to the 1986 bill, for statistical purposes: prevalence and reporting rates, geographical disposition, etc etc. According to the legislation a 'hate incident' is "any incident where the perpetrator’s hostility or prejudice against an identifiable group of people is a factor in determining who is victimised. A victim does not have to be a member of the group." The target 'identifiable group of people' categories are: "...ethnic/racial/cultural affiliation, religion, gender, gender identity, disability, or perceived ethnic/racial/cultural affiliation, religion, gender, gender identity, or disability." The explanatory sentencing notes to the 2006 Bill also note that, "In the absence of a precise legal definition of hostility, consideration should be given to ordinary dictionary definitions, which include ill-will, ill-feeling, spite, contempt, prejudice, systematic unfriendliness, antagonism, and resentment, strong dislike of, and hatred towards any individual or group based on their membership (perceived or actual) of a target category."

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64

[Forty Two]

And, an example of misogyny is an uninvited or unwanted sexual advance, or even just unwanted or uninvited verbal engagement.

It clearly says -

Unwanted or uninvited physical or verbal contact or engagement

But nice quote mine.

I take it to mean when a pest won't take a hint and fuck off.

An uninvited verbal engagement is within that example.

It says an unwanted OR uninvited physical OR verbal contact OR engagement.

It's not a quote mine. If you weren't invited to engage verbally with a woman, and you engage verbally with a woman, then you have committed an uninvited verbal engagement. The example does not require that the woman do anything to communicate her lack of interest. Mere absence of invitation is enough.

[DRSB]

Misogyny or not?
People in Novosibirsk have had enough of that woman who sunbathes by hanging her booty out the window
https://meduza.io/en/lion/2016/06/23/pe ... the-window

[Sean Hayden]

She's likely to get a bum rap.

[Forty Two]

Are you white? Pay your reparations here: http://www.reparations.me/

[Brian Peacock]

I'll pay up once the UK government has reparated me for their oppression of my ancestors during the Highland clearances.

[Forty Two]

You're missing the point that because of your whiteness, you are a beneficiary of white privilege. It's not about individual guilt. It's about social justice. Pay up. :-)

[Svartalf]

; I won't pay a cent until I'm refunded for all the lands my ancestors had the English conficated, and then fort what my French ancestorsd lost during the Revolution... By all rights I should be filthy rich and tax exempt, not piss poor and taxed like a serf.