Snipers shoot 12 cops, kill 5, at Black Lives Matter Protest

[Sean Hayden]

So? Listen to how people talk about how to best handle an encounter with police in the US. If you believe their advice is sound, then 'fuck dealing with the police' is a perfectly reasonable attitude to have. That's a problem, and the police have acknowledged it.

[Seth]

I wonder what the rate of cops shooting racists is.

As I said, there is dispute about the statistics of who gets shot more by police; whites or blacks.

For example, a 19 year old white kid was shot by police yesterday, but it didn't make the MSM.

What we do know is that cops shooting blacks gets all the press, which creates a perception that may be only peripherally related to reality.

[laklak]

The problem with "fuck dealing with the police" is it gets you shot. I'll do what Seth said, because I don't fancy becoming a "non-optimal outcome" statistic.

[Sean Hayden]

-my point exactly -and I'm talking about the attitude of the protesters and definitely not what anyone should do should they be dealing with the police.

[Seth]

So, the attacker was a war veteran and the police officers he shot were also war veterans? Maybe having so many war veterans in the police force is also a possible explanation for police brutality? (Together with bad education and working conditions). I noticed in the case of the Orlando shooting, that the security guard that was killed was also a police officer working part time as security at the gay club. Why are police not paid well enough so that they don't have to take a second job?

That is an excellent question! As with most things, you generally get what you pay for. When you are a dependent-class leech on society and you are part of the 50% of the population that doesn't pay any taxes you are not paying for top-quality, highly-educated and well-trained police officers, you're (not) paying for low-quality law enforcement, so that's what you get.

[Seth]

-my point exactly -and I'm talking about the attitude of the protesters and definitely not what anyone should do should they be dealing with the police.

Well, there's an argument to be made that the police probably should just fuck off and let such demonstrations explode into riots, at which point they can shoot just about anybody who is out on the street. "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken

One might be educated by examining who gets hurt and what gets destroyed in such riots. Here's a clue: It ain't Beverly Hills or Rodeo Drive.

Can you say "Watts?"

[Sean Hayden]

Ah, if only they were more capable. I once read a definition of terrorism, by experts, that insisted that only those acts doomed to fail to achieve their aim were necessarily terrorism.

[Tyrannical]

Ah, if only they were more capable. I once read a definition of terrorism, by experts, that insisted that only those acts doomed to fail to achieve their aim were necessarily terrorism.

Maybe suicidal terrorist attacks, but history is full of examples of the over powered majority using terrorism to subjegate weak minorities.

[pErvinalia]

I wonder what the rate of cops shooting racists is.

As I said, there is dispute about the statistics of who gets shot more by police; whites or blacks.

For example, a 19 year old white kid was shot by police yesterday, but it didn't make the MSM.

What we do know is that cops shooting blacks gets all the press, which creates a perception that may be only peripherally related to reality.

It's because blacks are killed out of proportion to their general representation in the population.

[pErvinalia]

The problem with "fuck dealing with the police" is it gets you shot. I'll do what Seth said, because I don't fancy becoming a "non-optimal outcome" statistic.

What you should do, instead of arguing for less government and less pay, is argue for well regulated, trained, and resourced police forces. Employing adult children and paying them shit and not training them properly only leads to these sorts of problems. Fixing that is going to take more government (i.e. regulations on who can and can't be a cop; and more funding).

[pErvinalia]

I can't seem to work out the story of what went on. Yesterday they were reporting that there were 4 shooters "triangulating". They arrested I think 3 people yesterday. Now today they are saying this guy was the sole shooter. I know the media usually gets shit wrong in these events, but that's SPECTACULARLY wrong to invent 3 extra shooters and military tactics when supposedly none of that happened (according to today's report).

[Scot Dutchy]

I think it shows the state of the law enforcement in Dallas. They have not got a clue.

[JimC]

I wonder what the rate of cops shooting racists is.

As I said, there is dispute about the statistics of who gets shot more by police; whites or blacks.

For example, a 19 year old white kid was shot by police yesterday, but it didn't make the MSM.

What we do know is that cops shooting blacks gets all the press, which creates a perception that may be only peripherally related to reality.

It's because blacks are killed out of proportion to their general representation in the population.

You knowhow Tyrannical is going to respond to that statistic...

In Australia, regular gin drinkers are 14.53 times less likely to be involved in violent crime than the rest of the population.

FACT!

[Sean Hayden]

I think it shows the state of the law enforcement in Dallas. They have not got a clue.

That sounds silly. I haven't read too much about it, but what I did read indicated that as soon as the police knew where the shooter was they ran towards the danger and took care of it. That it took several hours to assess what all had happened seems reasonable to me.

[JimC]

It often does take time to sort out the truth behind chaotic situations like that...