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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:27 am

Brian Peacock wrote:I don't know how anyone can play the anti-globalist joker on this with a straight face, particularly when the UK is about to undergo a transition to an unelected, even more right-wing, corporate-embedded Tory government than it's already had for the last 6 years.
That is a presumption Brian but anyway you look Britain will never be the same again.
Could two new parties emerge? A new centre right European style conservative party and a more centrist social/liberal party.

The tories are split and the right wing is heading for ukip but there is a sensible modern centre of the tory party that could stand up along with the remnants of the lib-dems right wing.

Labour on the other hand is bound to split with the Corbynites heading for the left wing desert while the more sane ones joining up with the left of the lib-dems.

I think also a second referendum over a commons vote to ignore the first referendum vote must be around the corner. By the way that was the impression after the meetings in Brussels as recorded on this side of the channel. I am afraid I dont find the BBC reporting very trustworthy these days.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:47 am

Just saw Cameron on the tele at the eu trying to pretend like nothing happened. France and Belgium stuck the boot in. Hahaha :)
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:50 am

Not a pretty sight.
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:13 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:I don't know how anyone can play the anti-globalist joker on this with a straight face, particularly when the UK is about to undergo a transition to an unelected, even more right-wing, corporate-embedded Tory government than it's already had for the last 6 years.
That is a presumption Brian but anyway you look Britain will never be the same again.
Could two new parties emerge? A new centre right European style conservative party and a more centrist social/liberal party.

The tories are split and the right wing is heading for ukip but there is a sensible modern centre of the tory party that could stand up along with the remnants of the lib-dems right wing.

Labour on the other hand is bound to split with the Corbynites heading for the left wing desert while the more sane ones joining up with the left of the lib-dems.

I think also a second referendum over a commons vote to ignore the first referendum vote must be around the corner. By the way that was the impression after the meetings in Brussels as recorded on this side of the channel. I am afraid I dont find the BBC reporting very trustworthy these days.
It's not a presumption really though. The main Leave players in the Tory party might not be 'establushment' in the traditional sense, but that doesn't mean they're not financially established and in it for the long hall.
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Post by laklak » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:30 pm

I told ya, you need to join the Union.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/opinions/ ... index.html
The Brits were sick and tired of being told how curvy bananas could be and whether eggs could be sold by the dozen. But by becoming the 51st state, the Brits would get no-fuss trading with all other U.S. states, without the pesky regulations. We're so lax about regulation, we let kids eat mac and cheese with Yellow Dye No. 5 and No. 6 — both banned in Europe!
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Post by piscator » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:55 am

Don't let him con you, Brits. The Grand Ole Opry ain't what it used to be since they moved it...

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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by devogue » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:48 am

He's left it too late but I really hope Corbyn takes the risk and declares himself (as many suspect anyway) in support of Brexit, realigns the Labour Party with its core grassroots support with a tough line on further unlimited immigration and a taxation plan to redistribute wealth to impoverished areas away from those who have benefited obscenely from thirty years of neoliberalism.

Fuck it, the times are so crazy and everything is in such a state of flux it might just work.

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Post by piscator » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:52 am

NATO?

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piscator wrote:NATO?
Should not be directly affected - it operates separately to the EU...
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:33 am

BBC wrote:"Do we have to leave home" and what is going to happen to "Joris Bonson"?

It is not just adults and teenagers who have questions in the wake of the UK's historic Brexit vote. Parents and teachers have been bombarded with queries from interested youngsters and schools have rearranged lessons to discuss the key issues. On Facebook, Twitter and website Mumsnet, parents have been sharing stories of their confused, tearful or outraged offspring.

Suzanne, from London, said her eight-year-old son Sam's school held a mock referendum and voted for Remain. But, she added, when the real result came in he put his head in his hands and said "pooey, pooey, bum, bum". "Maybe there are some boxes of votes that they haven't counted yet?" he suggested hopefully.

EnglishRose1320 said her 10-year-old daughter packed a bag and announced: "I'm moving to Canada, I don't feel a part of the UK anymore." One nine-year-old asked her parents if they would still be able to go on holiday to Lanzarote.

A mother on Facebook said her nine-year-old son George was worried his European friends "would be forced to leave the country and that there might be a war".

But on a more optimistic note, Ronnie Smith-Noble, 10, said his parents had assured him leaving was a good thing because, otherwise, "we'd have to pay more money". Celine, 9, says there'll be more money for the NHS now. Andreea Okoye, 10, thinks children should have been given a vote because adults only have to live with the result for "20 or 30 years more". "No offence", she added.

On the Mumsnet forums, KirstyJC said her five-year-old "looked really upset and shocked - then asked if we needed to leave our house". Daisydalrymple said her nine-year-old was "fairly concerned that Wales might now get kicked out of Euro 2016 before their next game".

But Witchend said her nine-year-old son is "not too worried by it as long as we can still play Euro football".

Cagliostro posted that when her nine-year-old daughter heard the news, she said: "Wait, so David Cameron just quit because he didn't get what he wanted? How silly." LegArmpits said her Year One son asked if "Joris Bonson would go now?"

Eyebrowsonfleek said: "My nine-year-old compared EU membership fees with Amazon Prime and thought that if you're getting lots of benefits then it's worth it."

Egosumquisum said: "I have explained it a bit like divorce, but the two people still need to work together. And there's no maintenance involved. "This is historic and I hope it makes [my son] realise that politics affects our lives."

BurnTheBlackSuit said: "Both my primary school aged children wanted to remain... they were mostly informed by Newsround as far as I can tell."

As for nine-year-old Freddie, he's finding school playtime quite boring. He said: "Everyone's arguing about it, some are saying things are better, some aren't. They're literally talking about nothing else".

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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:21 am

Well that are not just children asking. It is typical of the adults as well. The amount of crap Brexit fed them they will have to go for re-education treatment.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:42 am

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