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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:51 am

You can't blame them, though, for not wanting to remain in a union with England.
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Post by Seth » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:54 am

Brian Peacock wrote:BREXIT FACT: The estimated £200 billion fall in the value of the UK stock market is equivalent to 24 years' worth of UK contributions to the EU.
Hogwash. Stock market values are "paper" profits until someone actually sells stock. Moreover, stock values can be down 200 billion today and up 200 billion tomorrow and the markets will recover. In addition, stock market values are not like the taxes that the UK had to pay the EU for pretty much having the EU fuck the UK in the ass every year and not even having the courtesy to give it a reach-around.

A fall in the stock market primarily hurts big-money investors in the short term, who have agreed to take that risk by investing in the first place, whereas taxes are paid by everyone.

Big difference.
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Post by Seth » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:57 am

Brian Peacock wrote:I fear the SNP are grasping at political straws. Nobody is going to recognise Scotland as an independent entity without Scottish independence - and short of a popular revolt/UDI that will can only come from a vote in the national chamber. The problem with the N in SNP is the same as the problem with the I in UKIP - nationalism is an impoverished, and limited political ideal.
Not really, nationalism is how the world has operated quite well for thousands of years. The EU is a recent invention that clearly is NOT working.
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Thousands of years of warfare.
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eRv wrote:Thousands of years of warfare.
Not true, but what's your point? Warfare is how society disposes of excess males.
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by JimC » Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:05 am

Brian Peacock wrote:I fear the SNP are grasping at political straws. Nobody is going to recognise Scotland as an independent entity without Scottish independence - and short of a popular revolt/UDI that will can only come from a vote in the national chamber. The problem with the N in SNP is the same as the problem with the I in UKIP - nationalism is an impoverished, and limited political ideal.
But I gather that they can veto Brexit if they want to...
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:07 am

Seth wrote:
eRv wrote:Thousands of years of warfare.
Not true, but what's your point? Warfare is how society disposes of excess males.
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Post by DRSB » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:16 am

I took a trip around GB + Ireland 20 years ago, one month long. What did I like best? Scotland and the Scots, this is what I liked best about those isles. Their English takes some getting use to but on the whole very likeable and agreeable folks!

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Post by mistermack » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:13 am

eRv wrote:You can't blame them, though, for not wanting to remain in a union with England.
Except that they DO want that, and they voted for it not long ago.
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by JimC » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:49 am

mistermack wrote:
eRv wrote:You can't blame them, though, for not wanting to remain in a union with England.
Except that they DO want that, and they voted for it not long ago.
They wanted it in the context of remaining in the EU.

Different ball game now...
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Post by Feck » Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:56 am

mistermack wrote:
eRv wrote:You can't blame them, though, for not wanting to remain in a union with England.
Except that they DO want that, and they voted for it not long ago.
Scots were told that to stay in Europe, which was the stated intention of the Independence campaign, We would HAVE to vote for devolution not independence
We were also promised Devo-Max and that significant powers would be devolved to Hollyrood .
Yes a lot of people up here are angry It turns out both the carrot and the stick used to stop Scottish independence were total lies.
Sturgeon unlike all the other party leaders at the moment IS actually trying to do her job.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:22 am

JimC wrote:A massive expansion of gin production is my advice to the British...
Indeed, with the City bound for a lessening of its influence, it is time for England to look to industrial production to pick up the slack
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by Svartalf » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:26 am

mistermack wrote:
eRv wrote:You can't blame them, though, for not wanting to remain in a union with England.
Except that they DO want that, and they voted for it not long ago.
they mostly voted in because they feared the lengthy process to be readmitted into the EU, now, the UK has played them flase and is leaving anyway, they want to leave UK and remain inside the EU.
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Post by NineBerry » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:05 am

mistermack wrote: What's wrong with that? Is there some unwritten law that says it's racist not to keep growing your population at a ludicrous rate? The UK population grew by half a million in one year !!! While new housing is running at about 150,000. And the same imbalance goes for doctors, dentists, and teachers etc.
Just have Mc Donalds offer some Soylent Green Burgers. The problem is people getting older. If you stop immigration and stop people having children, your country will collapse because it will have too many old fucks and too few young people to take care of them.

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:21 am

mistermack wrote:
eRv wrote:You can't blame them, though, for not wanting to remain in a union with England.
Except that they DO want that, and they voted for it not long ago.
Yeah nah. They certainly won't want it now.
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