The Thread of BREXIT

[JimC]

Vicious, deluded, irrational and with a bizarre and totally unwarranted sense of superiority...

[Svartalf]

She made choices and that happened to be a bad one. Too bad. One more sheeple to the slaughter on the altar of the false god of gun control.

She got what she deserved for being an unarmed sheeple. Good riddance.

This is where Seth's superior logic, reason and rationalism comes in, you see. She wasn't murdered. She was slaughtered. And unarmed people deserve to be slaughtered. QED!

except I'd hate to be murdered, and with my country's laws, I can't be armed, and I certainly can't afford to get weaponry on the black market, plus training with it (as I should) would raise questions

[Tyrannical]

I wonder what will happen to those criminals that couldn't be deported because of EU human rights laws? Probably not first plane out of the UK

[pErvinalia]

She made choices and that happened to be a bad one. Too bad. One more sheeple to the slaughter on the altar of the false god of gun control.

She got what she deserved for being an unarmed sheeple. Good riddance.

This is where Seth's superior logic, reason and rationalism comes in, you see. She wasn't murdered. She was slaughtered. And unarmed people deserve to be slaughtered. QED!

except I'd hate to be murdered, and with my country's laws, I can't be armed, and I certainly can't afford to get weaponry on the black market, plus training with it (as I should) would raise questions

Don't use logic when debating Seth. He won't understand it. Your country more or less bans guns from the private citizenry. As you are in a democracy, this is your fault. Therefore you should be murdered. QED!

[JimC]

Poor Svarty!

[Scot Dutchy]

In the meantime:

Should you trust the pollsters or the bookies on the EU referendum?

Today’s voters are more open to changing their minds than at any point in 35 years. Perhaps that’s why it’s so hard to tell what will happen

According to the opinion polls, Thursday night’s referendum will be tight: surveys generally showed the Leave camp ahead until late last week, when the Remain camp clawed back some ground.

But bookmakers, who have already taken in record volumes of bets on this vote, see things very differently. Across the leading purveyors of political betting, average odds currently hover at around 1/4 implying a 75% probability that remain will win. So who should you trust?

If you look at the record, both the polls and the bookies failed to predict the Conservative overall majority last year, but the spread betting markets got closer to the truth than the folk with clipboards.

More...

[pErvinalia]

Traditional polling is becoming more and more unreliable for one simple reason: Most young people don't have fixed line phones any more. It's mainly the older who still have them. So pollsters aren't getting a wide sample because they are limited in a lot of places to only calling landlines.

[JimC]

rEv wrote:

...Most young people don't have fixed line phones any more. It's mainly the older who still have them...

Very true, you bastard!

[Scot Dutchy]

What happened to the telephone book?

[pErvinalia]

It's called the internet.

[Svartalf]

and it's not necessarily better that way

[Scot Dutchy]

There are no actual lists of telephones. I have seen some people having three or four of them.

[pErvinalia]

"lists of telephones"? What do you mean? Telephone numbers? Telephone books are available online. Anything in a telephone book will be online. In fact online will usually have more, as it's cheaper to put your number online.

Regarding polling, in Australia and many other places the pollsters either can't or won't (due to greater expense) ring mobiles. It's not a matter of someone's number not being knowable.

[Scot Dutchy]

"lists of telephones"? What do you mean? Telephone numbers? Telephone books are available online. Anything in a telephone book will be online. In fact online will usually have more, as it's cheaper to put your number online.

Regarding polling, in Australia and many other places the pollsters either can't or won't (due to greater expense) ring mobiles. It's not a matter of someone's number not being knowable.

Well phoning mobiles would not be very scientific. At least with fixed lines you can choose the area you are phoning. Here I think it would be the provider that would be the way to choose mobile phones as there is a definite distinction between the upper and lower end of the market.

[Seth]

Vicious, deluded, irrational and with a bizarre and totally unwarranted sense of superiority...

Channeling yourself today, Jim?