The Thread of BREXIT

[Scot Dutchy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-e ... m-36549603

EU Referendum: Dutch hopes and fears over Brexit

The words: "Don't leave me this way," in English, and the Union Jack splashed across the front page of Wednesday's edition of the best-selling daily newspaper Algemeen Dagblad reflect the general view of the Dutch establishment about a possible Brexit.

The Dutch currently hold the presidency of the EU, but it is not just the prospect of an unprecedented crisis happening on their watch that is causing jitters in the Netherlands.
Dutch politicians, especially on the right, regard Britain as a bulwark against the more protectionist tendencies of some of the bigger EU states.

As one of the grand old men of Dutch politics, the former leader of the centre right VVD party and former EU Commissioner Frits Bolkestein told me: "Holland and Britain look at the seas.
"We are maritime people and believe in trade with other parts of the world.

"Continental powers, like France and Germany, very important members of the EU, think differently."

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One word:

BOLLOCKS

Bolkenstein is a cunt on the right in the days that there was only a fag paper between the VVD en fascism. He is not "a grand old man of Dutch politics" but a dinosaur. Rutte the present MP has nothing in common with him. Dutch politicians are fed up with Britain but what do you get when you quote the Dutch Daily Wail.

[Scot Dutchy]

Here is how the Brexiters lie:

Daily Mail publishes correction to story about 'migrants from Europe'

Newspaper says group arriving in back of lorry were actually from Iraq and Kuwait, contrary to claims in front-page article

The Daily Mail has published a 54-word correction to a front page story that claimed that a group of migrants who arrived in the UK in the back of a lorry declared: “We are from Europe – let us in.”

The newspaper ran the article, by its reporters James Slack and Jason Groves, on Thursday with the headline: “As politicians squabble over border controls, yet another lorry load of migrants arriving in the UK declaring ... We’re from Europe – let us in!”

However, in the correction published at the bottom of page two on Friday, the Mail said the group were from the Middle East.
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In the meantime the damage is done and another lie sent into the world.

[cronus]

Here is how the Brexiters lie:

Daily Mail publishes correction to story about 'migrants from Europe'

Newspaper says group arriving in back of lorry were actually from Iraq and Kuwait, contrary to claims in front-page article

The Daily Mail has published a 54-word correction to a front page story that claimed that a group of migrants who arrived in the UK in the back of a lorry declared: “We are from Europe – let us in.”

The newspaper ran the article, by its reporters James Slack and Jason Groves, on Thursday with the headline: “As politicians squabble over border controls, yet another lorry load of migrants arriving in the UK declaring ... We’re from Europe – let us in!”

However, in the correction published at the bottom of page two on Friday, the Mail said the group were from the Middle East.
More...

In the meantime the damage is done and another lie sent into the world.

It's the Daily Mail. Those haters will hate. And everyone else will ignore. These articles change nothing.

[Scot Dutchy]

For many in Britain the Wail and the Bum are their main source of "facts". It suits their mentality as they dont have to think just parrot what the Wail and the Bum say.

[cronus]

For many in Britain the Wail and the Bum are their main source of "facts". It suits their mentality as they dont have to think just parrot what the Wail and the Bum say.

Circulation figures Daily Mail 1,708,006, it is widely believed the weekday Daily Mail will overtake The Sun in circulation during 2016.


Population of UK approx 80 million give or take ten....million.

[pErvinalia]

This is the greatest thing about the death of the print news. The Murdochs of the world are having less and less impact.

[Scot Dutchy]

For many in Britain the Wail and the Bum are their main source of "facts". It suits their mentality as they dont have to think just parrot what the Wail and the Bum say.

Circulation figures Daily Mail 1,708,006, it is widely believed the weekday Daily Mail will overtake The Sun in circulation during 2016.


Population of UK approx 80 million give or take ten....million.

How many of voting age? Those two rags have a big influence with certain social groups. The thicko's of Britain and along with the other red tops they cater for a sizeable part of the population who are unable to make a logical thought.

[Scot Dutchy]

This is the greatest thing about the death of the print news. The Murdochs of the world are having less and less impact.

In this referendum they are still playing a role.

[cronus]

This is the greatest thing about the death of the print news. The Murdochs of the world are having less and less impact.

In this referendum they are still playing a role.

Maybe in Holland.

[pErvinalia]

This is the greatest thing about the death of the print news. The Murdochs of the world are having less and less impact.

In this referendum they are still playing a role.

Yeah, in a voluntary voting system they have a bigger effect.

[MrJonno]

The Netherlands no more wants a neo-nazi fascist state just across the sea as I want to live in it. Brexit is the equivalent of electing Trump in the US

[Brian Peacock]

For many in Britain the Wail and the Bum are their main source of "facts". It suits their mentality as they dont have to think just parrot what the Wail and the Bum say.

Circulation figures Daily Mail 1,708,006, it is widely believed the weekday Daily Mail will overtake The Sun in circulation during 2016.


Population of UK approx 80 million give or take ten....million.

The Mail website gets more UK and international visits per day that any other UK newspaper - in fact it has the most unique visitors for any news outlet globally.

[cronus]

The Netherlands no more wants a neo-nazi fascist state just across the sea as I want to live in it. Brexit is the equivalent of electing Trump in the US

Netherlands is far closer to a neo-fascist state with Geert Wilders than the UK. Farage isn't gonna improve his popularity by taking over the shop. And he's hardly popular now.

[MrJonno]

The Netherlands no more wants a neo-nazi fascist state just across the sea as I want to live in it. Brexit is the equivalent of electing Trump in the US

Netherlands is far closer to a neo-fascist state with Geert Wilders than the UK. Farage isn't gonna improve his popularity by taking over the shop. And he's hardly popular now.

It's not Farage (or any politician) that worries me, its the general public, when the underclass/low skilled who think rightly they have no future find out nothing gets any better (and most likely worse) outside the EU they are going to look for scapegoats , anyone with the wrong accent, the wrong colour, religion or politics is going to be a target.

This is not some middle class dinner debate its about the very future of liberal democracy in the UK, forget project fear I'm terrified

[cronus]

The Netherlands no more wants a neo-nazi fascist state just across the sea as I want to live in it. Brexit is the equivalent of electing Trump in the US

Netherlands is far closer to a neo-fascist state with Geert Wilders than the UK. Farage isn't gonna improve his popularity by taking over the shop. And he's hardly popular now.

It's not Farage (or any politician) that worries me, its the general public, when the underclass/low skilled who think rightly they have no future find out nothing gets any better (and most likely worse) outside the EU they are going to look for scapegoats , anyone with the wrong accent, the wrong colour, religion or politics is going to be a target.

This is not some middle class dinner debate its about the very future of liberal democracy in the UK, forget project fear I'm terrified

That's possible. I've too much faith in my fellow man....lived top and bottom of the pile in my time. Nasty types do exist and are best avoided. But they won't take over the entire shop without a fight...