Problematic Stuff

[pErvinalia]

Thanks for equating my argument to "kill all men". You can be safely ignored with that nonsense.

[Forty Two]

It's an example of exactly the rationale you're applying. There was a #killallmen trend on the interwebz a while back, and the justification was "ironic misandry" which basically says that when women do it, it's o.k. The same goes for discrimination in health clubs. When women do it, it's o.k. That's the sum total of the argument you're making.

[Animavore]

It's an example of exactly the rationale you're applying. There was a #killallmen trend on the interwebz a while back, and the justification was "ironic misandry" which basically says that when women do it, it's o.k. The same goes for discrimination in health clubs. When women do it, it's o.k. That's the sum total of the argument you're making.

It is ok when women do it. Some of them might feel they need a place to exercise away from men eyeing them and harassing them. The real question is why it isn't ok when men want to have a men's club to get away from women and do men stuff.

[pErvinalia]

It's an example of exactly the rationale you're applying. There was a #killallmen trend on the interwebz a while back, and the justification was "ironic misandry" which basically says that when women do it, it's o.k. The same goes for discrimination in health clubs. When women do it, it's o.k. That's the sum total of the argument you're making.

Ok, if it was only being used as a rhetorical device, then it applies. And as it is a rhetorical device and not an actual prescription, then I don't know why you would expect it to be any more abhorrent than examples regarding gyms and the like. The reasoning is sound. Discrimination against power minorities has a greater social effect than discrimination against the powerful. Not even you could disagree with that, I would have thought.

[Scot Dutchy]

It's an example of exactly the rationale you're applying. There was a #killallmen trend on the interwebz a while back, and the justification was "ironic misandry" which basically says that when women do it, it's o.k. The same goes for discrimination in health clubs. When women do it, it's o.k. That's the sum total of the argument you're making.

It is ok when women do it. Some of them might feel they need a place to exercise away from men eyeing them and harassing them. The real question is why it isn't ok when men want to have a men's club to get away from women and do men stuff.

The trouble is the attitude of the society your in. A prudish society will always have problems in certain situations. Anglo-Saxon societies on the whole are conservative and prudish. Here I go to a sauna where there are both men and women together naked. Nothing happens and why should it? In the same building is a gym or sports school as we call it. Both men and women use it together. Nobody demands segregation as it is not required. You dont go to a sports school or sauna to ogle people that is not what it is for.

The idea that there is men and women's stuff is ridiculous. What there is civilised societies and non-civilised societies.

[pErvinalia]

I'd probably crack a fat...

[Scot Dutchy]

I'd probably crack a fat...

Me no understand Jimmy.

[Animavore]

I'd probably crack a fat...

Me no understand Jimmy.

I think he meant 'fart'.

[Hermit]

I'd probably crack a fat...

You obviously have not seen a typical Dutch person in the nude. The Dutch are only minimally more attractive than the average Scot, and none are anywhere near as exceptional as Lordpasternak.

[Scot Dutchy]

Well they are on average much taller. I heard the other day on the tram and it is the truth, three Scots (two women and a man) just arrived in the country when a group of kids entered the tram. They were boys and girls but all around two metres in height. The one woman said to other in a good Glaswegian accent.; "Annie this is a land of giants".

[Hermit]

Ugly people who are also tall, then. I don't see how the former diminishes the latter. If anything, it makes the ugliness stand out, so to speak. Just look at the prominent Dutch model, Femke Lankenman.



Tall? Yes. Beautiful? Turn-on? By Dutch or Scottish standards, I suppose she might be.

And her face looks severe rather than beautiful.



When it comes to combining height with beauty I prefer the 183 centimetre (6 foot) tall Australian born Elle Macpherson, who at the age of 52 still cuts an attractive figure.



Lacking inclination and expertise about height and beauty in men, I'll leave it to someone else. Nineberry, would you like to volunteer?

[pErvinalia]

This is a bizarre argument. Probably not really that informative, eh?

[Scot Dutchy]

This is a bizarre argument. Probably not really that informative, eh?

Whose arguing after all beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all.

[Svartalf]

Severe or not, I'd not push the Dutch lady out of my bed shoud she choose to go there... of course, physical compatibility of that tall bonebag with a fat shorty like me is another question.
And elle's beauty is too well preserved to still be natural.

[pErvinalia]

Oi! Elle's a natural sheila, you frog!