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Progessive Muslamic Burnings Of Women

Post by cronus » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:04 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-36479386

Pakistan: Mother 'burnt her daughter to death' over marriage

Police in the Pakistani city of Lahore have arrested a woman suspected of murdering her daughter for marrying without family consent.
Police say the body of Zeenat Rafiq shows signs of torture. She was tied to a bed, doused with fuel and set alight.

Her mother Parveen is accused of luring her back from her in-laws.

It is the third such case in a month in Pakistan, where attacks on women who go against conservative rules on love and marriage are common.
Last week a young school teacher, Maria Sadaqat, was set on fire in Murree near Islamabad for refusing a marriage proposal. She died of her injuries.

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Punjab province, where the two latest attacks happened, passed a landmark law in February criminalising all forms of violence against women.
However, more than 30 religious groups, including all the mainstream Islamic political parties, threatened to launch protests if the law was not repealed.
The Council of Islamic Ideology, which advises the government, then proposed making it legal for husbands to "lightly beat" their wives. It came under fire as a result.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:37 pm

Islam - the religion of peace. (so long as you are not a woman, infidel etc.).
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Post by cronus » Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:40 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Islam - the religion of peace. (so long as you are not a woman, infidel etc.).

They've come a long way since 9/11....although it is a weird way to tackle the birthrate. :coffee:
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Post by JimC » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:17 pm

To be fair, this may only be indirectly related to islam, in that marrying without parental permission is seen as criminal in several cultures, not all of them islamic...
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:11 am

Religion is just a way to formalise a patriarchal society and to seek formal protection for bigotry. No matter what Exi says, if you remove the special protections and significance of religion then you WILL reduce this sort of shit. So, Islam can suck on my wrinkly sack!
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Post by JimC » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:03 am

eRv wrote:Religion is just a way to formalise a patriarchal society and to seek formal protection for bigotry. No matter what Exi says, if you remove the special protections and significance of religion then you WILL reduce this sort of shit. So, Islam can suck on my wrinkly sack!
I agree that it would be reduced, but religion is not the only reason for these types of actions, although it may often reinforce them...
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:12 am

True. But consider the special status religion has around the world (not least here in the west, where it is even greatly reduced compared to the theocracies). It's basically a state licence to be a bigoted fuckstick. If you remove that special license, then we are only left with state-level bigotry (like backward abortion law and lgbti discrimination etc) - which the people at least have a fair level of control over every 4 years or so; or individual level bigotry which can be dealt with by beating the fuck out of bigots, or, if one is a liberal, sitting down and having a nice cup of tea with them to discuss comparative world views.. :tea:
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Post by JimC » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:19 am

At the risk of being a western snob, there are cultural practices in some third world countries, not tied to a particular religion, that are simply nasty, and usually involve oppressing women, children and people with differences. Cultural relativism adherents would flay me for such a statement, but they have their heads firmly in the sand. Changing these is a matter of education and government action, and given the crushing poverty and government corruption prevalent in many such places, I won't hold my breath waiting for change.

But, as I've already said, I agree that religions often either directly or indirectly add to the irrational treatment of human beings...
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Post by cronus » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:22 am

Religion is the acceptable face of the dark ages in modern societies and the acceptable face of modernity in backward ones. That's about right Jim C? :read:
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Don't worry, Exi will be here soon to set us all straight on what the problem is...
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Post by JimC » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:23 am

eRv wrote:Don't worry, Exi will be here soon to set us all straight on what the problem is...
He'll have his work cut out with Crumple...
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:25 am

Exi vs Crumple debate. Now that'd be something I'd pay to see! :hehe:
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:20 am

It's racist to criticize their rich culture :hehe:
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:22 am

they do have a rich culture... just visite the alcazar at Sevillla and the Alhambra at Granada to make sure of that... they've had great mathemmaticians and scientists, poets and the like.

They also have a culture of douchebaggery
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