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Sanders Supporter Elucidates Anti-Hillary Stance

Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 31, 2016 8:38 am

Interesting article. Couldn't be arsed finding a key excerpt to quote. You can read it all, you establishment Hillary-bot freaks! :mrgreen:

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/ ... ialnetwork
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Re: Sanders Supporter Elucidates Anti-Hillary Stance

Post by JimC » Tue May 31, 2016 9:04 am

Trump is going to win...
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Post by piscator » Tue May 31, 2016 11:57 pm

Common Dreams is a way-lefty PAC.
Goddamn, I can accept a certain amount of naivete because you're not American, but new threads straight up linking to PACs and copypasta from Bernie sites doesn't rate much above politrolling some bait around.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:27 am

It's the content that is interesting, not where it is hosted. :bored:
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Post by Hermit » Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:31 am

eRv wrote:Interesting article. Couldn't be arsed finding a key excerpt to quote. You can read it all, you establishment Hillary-bot freaks! :mrgreen:

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/ ... ialnetwork
When all is said and done, not bothering to vote for Clinton because one's preferred candidate did not win the nomination does improve Trump's chances of becoming the next POTUS. Despite the 100,000 words Coito spent on arguing the contrary, it should not be too difficult to work out why this is not a good idea.
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Post by JimC » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:09 pm

I've said all along that it will come down to the percentage of people who actually vote, and whether this is lower or higher for Trump or Clinton. Not a factor here in Oz, or only in a very minor way...
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:46 am

Yeah. It would seem that if the left gets out and votes, then Trump will get smashed. He only appeals to a small (vocal and active) minority of the population - mainly angry white men. The Democrat party and fanboi logic is retarded anyway. There's almost no way that committed Hillary supporters would vote for Trump over Sanders. Some would stay home, but others would vote Sanders. The same pretty much goes in reverse for Sanders -> Clinton (although, perhaps to a lesser extent). The difference is that Sanders has mobilised millions of new voters and independents that are far less likely to come out and vote if it's Hillary over Sanders against Trump. It makes far more sense to back Sanders if your primary concern is not seeing Trump elected. However, if you are a committed establishment sheep, then your only establishment option is Clinton. Some of these sheep need to wake the fuck up. I guess that's the problem with sheep, though.
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Post by JimC » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:05 am

Given that the reality seems to be that it would be Hillary vs Trump, it would be fairly perverse of Sanders supporters to stay home and sulk on voting day...
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Re: Sanders Supporter Elucidates Anti-Hillary Stance

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:10 am

I'm not so sure, they like Bernie so much because he's everything hilton is not : loud , far from received ideas, and unsupported by the establishment. Trump looks a lot like that, except that he's a republican; so if they are given a choice between the two, they just might decide to sit the fence and let the undesirables duke it out between each other rather than vote the lesser evil.
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Re: Sanders Supporter Elucidates Anti-Hillary Stance

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:36 am

JimC wrote:Given that the reality seems to be that it would be Hillary vs Trump, it would be fairly perverse of Sanders supporters to stay home and sulk on voting day...
I don't think it is a case of "sulking". There are arguments for and against voting for Clinton or staying home. But a large number of Sander's democrat supporters will vote for Clinton, I'd imagine. His independent supporters probably won't, though.
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