Social Justice Warriors LOL

[pErvinalia]

Jeezus, get some bloody perspective.

But where are the feminazis and manginas in that picture?

[pErvinalia]

It does peeve me when people mix up capitalism with corporatism though. Capitalism is just exchange of goods and/or services for likewise.

You're talking about utopian capitalism now. In reality corporatism will always develop out of what begins as what you call "just exchange of goods and/or services for likewise". There is nothing you can do to prevent that from happening, though you can impose some control over it through regulations and laws. How well such controls work depends on how well those regulations and laws are formulated and how effectively they are enforced.

Yep. When you have the profit motive, you will always get corruption and cronyism.

[Scot Dutchy]

It does peeve me when people mix up capitalism with corporatism though. Capitalism is just exchange of goods and/or services for likewise.

You're talking about utopian capitalism now. In reality corporatism will always develop out of what begins as what you call "just exchange of goods and/or services for likewise". There is nothing you can do to prevent that from happening, though you can impose some control over it through regulations and laws. How well such controls work depends on how well those regulations and laws are formulated and how effectively they are enforced.

Yep. When you have the profit motive, you will always get corruption and cronyism.

Yep I agree along with market fixing and monopolism.

[Brian Peacock]

Which is why naked greed and exploitation in the service of naked greed require regulation. It's the civilised thing to do. Those who bleat on about deregulating markets are basic making a plea to be allowed to be more exploitative. A balance has to be struck in favour of the exploited not the exploiter.

[laklak]

Yes, and it's the point of balance that is in contention. Certainly Big Bidnez needs regulation, but in their zealous efforts to Protect The Innocent the Feds here have made it damned difficult for a small businessman to succeed.

[Brian Peacock]

That's true here as well. The balance in favour of Big Biznez seems to extend far too far and the restriction of small biznez, particularly one- or two-person operations, seems far too limiting. Furthermore, biznez is not a social enterprise but it does have social consequences - this often gets overlooked too in broad-blanket calls for deregulation.

[laklak]

It's touted as fair, because the same regulations apply to Kraft Corporation that apply to Jose's Mexican Restaurant. It's a particular pet rant of mine so I won't get myself started, but fuck them and their rules. Fucking fascist fucks.

[JimC]

It does peeve me when people mix up capitalism with corporatism though. Capitalism is just exchange of goods and/or services for likewise.

You're talking about utopian capitalism now. In reality corporatism will always develop out of what begins as what you call "just exchange of goods and/or services for likewise". There is nothing you can do to prevent that from happening, though you can impose some control over it through regulations and laws. How well such controls work depends on how well those regulations and laws are formulated and how effectively they are enforced.

[Forty Two]

What happened at Milo's speech at DePaul University is a real wake-up call, and should be a signal that it's time not to take this shit from the regressive left any longer. Stop laying down to these dipshits.

They stormed the stage. One of them assaulted the moderator and grabbed his microphone away from him. She then aggressively approached Milo, and swung at him, nearly hitting his face (you see Milo simply turn his cheek and wince a bit, but he held back reacting). Another one paced up and down the stage, and threatened immediate violence against Milo -- threatened to hit him and knock him to the floor.

He should have them charged with attempted assault. No need to get your panties in a twist about the regressive left taking over the world. You still have laws against this sort of behaviour.

Though I understand your (42) anger and frustration at the way universities are behaving right now, eRv does have a point about this crossing the line into intimidation and violence and there are laws against that. The best way to fight this is mockery, see Breitbart link below.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/05/2 ... -facebook/

There was security and police at the event that was being disrupted. They stood by and watched at the direction of the administration of the school. The police and security do nothing, because this social justice horseshit is infectious. It's a cancer.

[Forty Two]

Starting to see more use of the terms "white knighting", "virtue signalling" and the like on facebook lately. Liberals are really starting to shit me. Do we hear them talking about climate change? Nup. Do we hear them talking about corporatism or crony capitalism? Nup. The biggest threat to their way of life are feminists, and particularly male feminists. Jeezus, get some bloody perspective.

Just admit you are one of them ebil Globalist and were good.

When the social justice douchebags stop talking about microaggressions, and stop trying to silence opinions they don't like, we can all go back to discussing the real issues that face the world at-large. However, as long as dickwads are going to rush the stage and assault people in the name of "social justice" and to oppose "hate speech," then the douchies who side with them are going to be called what they are -- virtue signalling white knights. They support the right of so-called marginalized groups (at De Paul University, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, etc.) to use violence and intimidation to shut people up, because the dippy white knights want to look progressive and forward thinking, in favor of the oppressed.... fucking wankers.

[pErvinalia]

What happened at Milo's speech at DePaul University is a real wake-up call, and should be a signal that it's time not to take this shit from the regressive left any longer. Stop laying down to these dipshits.

They stormed the stage. One of them assaulted the moderator and grabbed his microphone away from him. She then aggressively approached Milo, and swung at him, nearly hitting his face (you see Milo simply turn his cheek and wince a bit, but he held back reacting). Another one paced up and down the stage, and threatened immediate violence against Milo -- threatened to hit him and knock him to the floor.

He should have them charged with attempted assault. No need to get your panties in a twist about the regressive left taking over the world. You still have laws against this sort of behaviour.

Though I understand your (42) anger and frustration at the way universities are behaving right now, eRv does have a point about this crossing the line into intimidation and violence and there are laws against that. The best way to fight this is mockery, see Breitbart link below.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/05/2 ... -facebook/

There was security and police at the event that was being disrupted. They stood by and watched at the direction of the administration of the school. The police and security do nothing, because this social justice horseshit is infectious. It's a cancer.

As I said last time you ignored my post, if this is the case then it is a problem with your police collaborating with the university, not a problem of rabid lefties.

But your suggestion that the police are infected by far left nonsense is utterly laughable.

[pErvinalia]

Starting to see more use of the terms "white knighting", "virtue signalling" and the like on facebook lately. Liberals are really starting to shit me. Do we hear them talking about climate change? Nup. Do we hear them talking about corporatism or crony capitalism? Nup. The biggest threat to their way of life are feminists, and particularly male feminists. Jeezus, get some bloody perspective.

Just admit you are one of them ebil Globalist and were good.

When the social justice douchebags stop talking about microaggressions, and stop trying to silence opinions they don't like, we can all go back to discussing the real issues that face the world at-large.

The rest of us don't have problems discussing the real problems facing the world. Just admit it, you lot don't give a fuck about climate change or crony capitalism. You are all too busy stumbling over each other trying to play the victim as minorities (or their "proxies") start making demands on your whitebread sensibilities.

However, as long as dickwads are going to rush the stage and assault people in the name of "social justice" and to oppose "hate speech," then the douchies who side with them are going to be called what they are -- virtue signalling white knights. They support the right of so-called marginalized groups (at De Paul University, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, etc.) to use violence and intimidation to shut people up, because the dippy white knights want to look progressive and forward thinking, in favor of the oppressed.... fucking wankers.

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Yeah!

[Forty Two]

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As I said last time you ignored my post, if this is the case then it is a problem with your police collaborating with the university, not a problem of rabid lefties.

But your suggestion that the police are infected by far left nonsense is utterly laughable.

The problem is that the universities are controlled by the rabid lefties, and those who support the rabid lefties. I.e., the protesters ARE the establishment. So, it is a problem with rabid lefties.

I did not say the "police" are infected. I said the administration is infected. The administration is who caused the police and security to "stand down."

This is the same concept behind the new kind of protest we see on campuses -- we see students protesting in favor of more authoritarian action by administrations. Why? Because they know they have the control -- they are the establishment, and they are using the establishment to silence their opposition.

If the students who commandeered the stage at DePaul University were white, they would have been arrested and prosecuted, and the incident would have been plastered all over the news as an example of white racism and hatred from the right. When it comes from the left, it counters the false narrative that has grown up around this, that the violence is coming from the right. Today, it is not coming from the right, it is coming from the left.

Milo has to sit there and not move, and barely express any opposition. If he were to stand up and demand his stage, that would be deemed the offense. If he defended himself and pushed the fucking scumbags away from him, he would have been portrayed as the aggressor. He knows that. That's why in the video you hear them call upon the crowd of attendees to sit and remain passive. The best they could hope for was to get the monsters on video acting like the monsters they are, and hope that someone will cover it. Did it make CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, or NBC? Nope. It made Breitbart and Youtube, and some folks wrote about it on Slate and such. What makes the news over and over again is Trump saying that "the latinos are going to love me" and "I'm going to build a wall" and that's called hate speech.

[pErvinalia]

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As I said last time you ignored my post, if this is the case then it is a problem with your police collaborating with the university, not a problem of rabid lefties.

But your suggestion that the police are infected by far left nonsense is utterly laughable.

The problem is that the universities are controlled by the rabid lefties, and those who support the rabid lefties. I.e., the protesters ARE the establishment. So, it is a problem with rabid lefties.

I did not say the "police" are infected.

Yes you did. You said "the police and security do nothing because this social justice horseshit is infectious"

This is the same concept behind the new kind of protest we see on campuses -- we see students protesting in favor of more authoritarian action by administrations. Why? Because they know they have the control -- they are the establishment, and they are using the establishment to silence their opposition.

University administrations aren't the State. Why do you have such disdain for the liberal principle of respect for private property rights?

[Forty Two]

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As I said last time you ignored my post, if this is the case then it is a problem with your police collaborating with the university, not a problem of rabid lefties.

But your suggestion that the police are infected by far left nonsense is utterly laughable.

The problem is that the universities are controlled by the rabid lefties, and those who support the rabid lefties. I.e., the protesters ARE the establishment. So, it is a problem with rabid lefties.

I did not say the "police" are infected.

Yes you did. You said "the police and security do nothing because this social justice horseshit is infectious"

I think you misunderstood the context. The police don't want to get involved with being called racist, so they were willing to tolerate a lot. But, the folks that have been infected by the social justice horseshit is the administration. The college administration directed the security personnel and police to not take action, and the security/police did just that.

So, it's not that the police are full of social justice warriors in the role of police officer, it's that their hands are tied by the infectiousness of the social justice ideas that have taken root, and they were basically unwilling to act in contravention to the school administration (which is directly infected with the disease of social justice warriors) because they see no risk in not taking action and lots of risk in taking action. The latter risk is in being labeled a racist, publicized as such, and even investigated as such.

This is the same concept behind the new kind of protest we see on campuses -- we see students protesting in favor of more authoritarian action by administrations. Why? Because they know they have the control -- they are the establishment, and they are using the establishment to silence their opposition.

University administrations aren't the State. Why do you have such disdain for the liberal principle of respect for private property rights?

In public universities they are. Our university system in the US is huge - we have thousands of universities, and most are state-funded, which makes them subject to much of the same restrictions on action as a government entity.

I have no disdain for the liberal principle of respect for property rights, but property rights have never meant than cops are not to enforce the law. If there is a fight on my property, the cops are supposed to come there and arrest someone. Same goes for a private university. The administration has no right or just power to order cops to not do their duty, although that is exactly what happened at DePaul.

If DePaul is private and didn't want Milo there, then they have no obligation to allow it. However, denying speakers based on ideology would open up DePault to the criticism that they are not supportive of the free exchange of ideas and are not fulfiling the fundamental role of a university. Even though they are private, they are not immune from criticism when they act illiberally (or any other criticism). Also, once they admit a person to their property, they have the same obligation as any other private person with respect to negligence, contracts, and such, and crimes committed on their property are still crimes.