God does work in wondrous ways.'It's beyond pain': how Mormons are left vulnerable in Utah's opiate crisisMormons, who shun drugs and alcohol, have fallen prey to addiction in Utah, where one-third of adults were prescribed an opioid pain medication in 2014
Maline Hairup was a devout Mormon. No alcohol, no coffee. She didn’t smoke. Until the day she died, she had never used illegal drugs. Yet she was an addict for most of her adult life.
“Maline never thought she had a problem,” said her sister, Mindy Vincent, a recovering addict. “She was a firm believer that because the doctor prescribed the pills it was OK. She didn’t see any shame in it. She didn’t think she was an addict. It wasn’t like taking drugs. But she was on the painkillers for 15 years until they wouldn’t give her any more.
“She eventually ended up getting some heroin because she couldn’t get any more pills. My sister used heroin one time and she died.”
In 2014, the year Hairup died at age 38, one-third of adults in Utah had a prescription for opioid painkillers, most notably a powerful opiate at the heart of the crisis, OxyContin. Many of them were among the 65% of state residents who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or Mormons. Sometimes, opioids take hold of several members of the same family. Hairup’s father is dependent on prescription painkillers and her brother’s addiction to prescription opioids set him on the path to heroin.
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Damn, I have a full box or two of opioid tablets in my prescription cabinet... I'm just happy I don't need them anymore... at the time I was taking them like they were going out of fashion, I DID fear I'd get addicted, but either that kind is not addictive when taken at need only, or I just got lucky.
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Scot Dutchy wrote:God does work in wondrous ways.'It's beyond pain': how Mormons are left vulnerable in Utah's opiate crisisMormons, who shun drugs and alcohol, have fallen prey to addiction in Utah, where one-third of adults were prescribed an opioid pain medication in 2014
Maline Hairup was a devout Mormon. No alcohol, no coffee. She didn’t smoke. Until the day she died, she had never used illegal drugs. Yet she was an addict for most of her adult life.
“Maline never thought she had a problem,” said her sister, Mindy Vincent, a recovering addict. “She was a firm believer that because the doctor prescribed the pills it was OK. She didn’t see any shame in it. She didn’t think she was an addict. It wasn’t like taking drugs. But she was on the painkillers for 15 years until they wouldn’t give her any more.
“She eventually ended up getting some heroin because she couldn’t get any more pills. My sister used heroin one time and she died.”
In 2014, the year Hairup died at age 38, one-third of adults in Utah had a prescription for opioid painkillers, most notably a powerful opiate at the heart of the crisis, OxyContin. Many of them were among the 65% of state residents who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or Mormons. Sometimes, opioids take hold of several members of the same family. Hairup’s father is dependent on prescription painkillers and her brother’s addiction to prescription opioids set him on the path to heroin.
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Can't really help stupid people.Scot Dutchy wrote:God does work in wondrous ways.'It's beyond pain': how Mormons are left vulnerable in Utah's opiate crisisMormons, who shun drugs and alcohol, have fallen prey to addiction in Utah, where one-third of adults were prescribed an opioid pain medication in 2014
Maline Hairup was a devout Mormon. No alcohol, no coffee. She didn’t smoke. Until the day she died, she had never used illegal drugs. Yet she was an addict for most of her adult life.
“Maline never thought she had a problem,” said her sister, Mindy Vincent, a recovering addict. “She was a firm believer that because the doctor prescribed the pills it was OK. She didn’t see any shame in it. She didn’t think she was an addict. It wasn’t like taking drugs. But she was on the painkillers for 15 years until they wouldn’t give her any more.
“She eventually ended up getting some heroin because she couldn’t get any more pills. My sister used heroin one time and she died.”
In 2014, the year Hairup died at age 38, one-third of adults in Utah had a prescription for opioid painkillers, most notably a powerful opiate at the heart of the crisis, OxyContin. Many of them were among the 65% of state residents who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or Mormons. Sometimes, opioids take hold of several members of the same family. Hairup’s father is dependent on prescription painkillers and her brother’s addiction to prescription opioids set him on the path to heroin.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... -addiction
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By the way, Mmmm.... Oxycontin...
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I never realised you could get these opiods so easily and so many in America. Here it is impossible.
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I guess you just have to ask the right doctor. I have chronic neck and back pain, for instance, but narcotics seem to be not an option whenever I talk to my doc. Which is fine with me actually because I hate them, so I never press the issue. For me, the negative side-effects (constipation, insomnia, etc) outweigh the benefits. Now, if I could find a med that would alleviate the pain without nasty side-effects I'd be all for it.Scot Dutchy wrote:I never realised you could get these opiods so easily and so many in America. Here it is impossible.
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Insomnia as a side effects of opioids? that's a new one...
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They aren't easy to get here. But when you have kidney pain, you definitely need them. They didn't give me any to take home with me after the operation on wednesday, despite chewing them down while I was in there for the 24 hours. But I had some left over from the first kidney stone I got a few months ago when I was in EXCRUCIATING pain. I've only had a couple in the day and a half since coming home. Surprisingly, paracetamol works quite well for kidney pain and usually works well in combo with Endone (oxycodone).
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I get that from codeine and tramadol. Endone, though, puts me well to sleep.Svartalf wrote:Insomnia as a side effects of opioids? that's a new one...

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never tried codeine (except in tiny doses in cold medicine), or endone, but tramadol sure does not do that to me
and when my dad had cancer, the morphine he took sure knocked him out.
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There's a big trial in Anchorage going on right now of a doctor accused of being a little too loose with the opioids. It may not be the first time the doc has had his ass in a wringer for similar charges...
Yesterday's front page of ADN showed a woman holding a prescription bottle containing some of the ashes of her 20yo son, after she confronted the doctor while they were perp-walking him out of the courthouse.
We have a Mormon church in my little village of <3000 souls and 11 churches. A buddy rents apartments to Mormon missionaries, another owns the "rectory" leased to the local CoC. They always have struck me as "being on something" during the rare occasions I trip over a Momo...
That's OK, my girl lived in Nepal for a couple years, and at an ashram near Gangotri for another during her 5-season career as a trekking guide for Mountain Travel. Our house has enough BuHindu shit laying around to decorate an Englishman's study...
Yesterday's front page of ADN showed a woman holding a prescription bottle containing some of the ashes of her 20yo son, after she confronted the doctor while they were perp-walking him out of the courthouse.
We have a Mormon church in my little village of <3000 souls and 11 churches. A buddy rents apartments to Mormon missionaries, another owns the "rectory" leased to the local CoC. They always have struck me as "being on something" during the rare occasions I trip over a Momo...
That's OK, my girl lived in Nepal for a couple years, and at an ashram near Gangotri for another during her 5-season career as a trekking guide for Mountain Travel. Our house has enough BuHindu shit laying around to decorate an Englishman's study...
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