Atheist Explains Hypocrisy of Leftist Atheists

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Atheist Explains Hypocrisy of Leftist Atheists

Post by Collector1337 » Mon May 23, 2016 7:48 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Collector1337 wrote:...
The real question is, why does there seem to be a correlation between being atheist and a leftist? Why is there not a proportional amount of conservative atheists?
Probably because we think for ourselves and don't out-source our moral reasoning to others.
eRv wrote:Yep.
Rational thinking and conservatism are anathema to each other.
So atheists, why are you so willing to use force to get me to do what you want? You certainly wouldn't want Christians to impose their morals on you using force, correct?


Atheists claim to reject irrational moral authority (religion) despite Christians using the word, not the sword, to get people to follow their moral authority. While atheists are more than happy to impose their own moral authority on others by using big government and using the power of the sword (the law/jail/state's weapons), not word, if you don't do what they what to impose on you.

Christians are not going to use the power of the state (vote conservative/want smaller government) to get you to follow their moral authority, but atheists (vote liberal/want bigger government) will.


Rebuttal to so-called "arguments" to first video:



Atheists replace God with the State. Prove me wrong, Statheists.

I can I opt out of having to do what the State tells me to do, like you can opt out of what religion tells you to do?
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Post by piscator » Mon May 23, 2016 8:06 am

I skipped the videos. The whole presentation sounds like bullshit, BTW.

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Post by mistermack » Mon May 23, 2016 8:15 am

This is child-level reasoning, that does appeal to people on the right.
They can see the coercion in government, but they can't see the coercion that pervades all parts of the capitalist system. That's because they haven't got the fucking brains to look below the surface.

They portray it as government coercion or no coercion. And most of them are so dumb, they really believe it.
If one person is born with nothing, and another is born with billions, there's no coercion there to them. Even though the one born with billions can make the other work like a slave all his life for a pittance.

That's the essence of what people on the right are too fucking stupid to get.
The system of capital is far more intrusive and enslaving than any government. But you need a brain to see it. :funny:
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Re: Atheist Explains Hypocrisy of Leftist Atheists

Post by rainbow » Mon May 23, 2016 8:19 am

Collector1337 wrote: So atheists, why are you so willing to use force to get me to do what you want?
Atheists do not exist, therefore your argument falls at the first hurdle.
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Post by JimC » Mon May 23, 2016 8:48 am

mistermack wrote:This is child-level reasoning, that does appeal to people on the right.
They can see the coercion in government, but they can't see the coercion that pervades all parts of the capitalist system. That's because they haven't got the fucking brains to look below the surface.

They portray it as government coercion or no coercion. And most of them are so dumb, they really believe it.
If one person is born with nothing, and another is born with billions, there's no coercion there to them. Even though the one born with billions can make the other work like a slave all his life for a pittance.

That's the essence of what people on the right are too fucking stupid to get.
The system of capital is far more intrusive and enslaving than any government. But you need a brain to see it. :funny:
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Post by Svartalf » Mon May 23, 2016 8:54 am

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Post by Hermit » Mon May 23, 2016 9:20 am

piscator wrote:I skipped the videos. The whole presentation sounds like bullshit, BTW.
I recognised Stefan Molyneux straight away, and my first thought was that if Collector was serious about atheists clobbering leftists he would have cited someone more trenchant: Ayn Rand. Of course I am as impressed with the content of Stefan "Babbling Brook" Molyneux as I am with Ayn "Do as I say, not as I do" Rand.
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Post by mistermack » Mon May 23, 2016 10:14 am

whoops, accidental click.

Edit, but that guy in the video is well and truly irritating. And full of himself.
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Re: Atheist Explains Hypocrisy of Leftist Atheists

Post by laklak » Mon May 23, 2016 1:48 pm

I ain't doin what nobody fuckin tells me to do. Fuck 'em. I'll shoot the ass off a leftist clown as quick as a fundy moron. Get off my fucking property before I turn the dogs on you.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Rum » Mon May 23, 2016 4:44 pm

People with any common sense know what atheism is. It is pretty simple and doesn't have to have anything attached to it.

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Re: Atheist Explains Hypocrisy of Leftist Atheists

Post by DaveDodo007 » Mon May 23, 2016 7:26 pm

You can read, listen to and watch anything to do with communism, socialism and lefty/liberals in general and it all boils down to this.

TL;DR: Give me money, give me free stuff.

Obviously nobody is going to take that seriously so they have to seek positions of power and influence. It is a feature not a bug when they become authoritarian or totalitarian. Use indoctrination and brainwashing to get people to believe in this destructive nonsense. It's no coincidence that now the lefty/liberals have taken over universities that they want to ban free speech. Most people are good so you will get some form of welfare state in democracies but it never ends. They are never sated, it's give me this, give me that, I want I want forever. They bankrupt whole countries with their greed all the while calling people who want to keep most of the money they earn greedy, 'liberal logic.' It is just short termism and fuck the consequences for everyone else. They call conservatives idiots, greedy and selfish the cognitive dissonance is utterly mind boggling.
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Re: Atheist Explains Hypocrisy of Leftist Atheists

Post by Rum » Mon May 23, 2016 7:28 pm

No it doesn't.

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Re: Atheist Explains Hypocrisy of Leftist Atheists

Post by DaveDodo007 » Mon May 23, 2016 10:16 pm

Collector1337 wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Collector1337 wrote:...
The real question is, why does there seem to be a correlation between being atheist and a leftist? Why is there not a proportional amount of conservative atheists?
Probably because we think for ourselves and don't out-source our moral reasoning to others.
eRv wrote:Yep.
Rational thinking and conservatism are anathema to each other.
So atheists, why are you so willing to use force to get me to do what you want? You certainly wouldn't want Christians to impose their morals on you using force, correct?


Atheists claim to reject irrational moral authority (religion) despite Christians using the word, not the sword, to get people to follow their moral authority. While atheists are more than happy to impose their own moral authority on others by using big government and using the power of the sword (the law/jail/state's weapons), not word, if you don't do what they what to impose on you.

Christians are not going to use the power of the state (vote conservative/want smaller government) to get you to follow their moral authority, but atheists (vote liberal/want bigger government) will.


Rebuttal to so-called "arguments" to first video:



Atheists replace God with the State. Prove me wrong, Statheists.

I can I opt out of having to do what the State tells me to do, like you can opt out of what religion tells you to do?

Probably best not using Stefan Molyneux when arguing for small government as he is a very emotive thinker. I can agree with a lot of his conclusions without knowing how he reached them given his linear thought process, critical thinking ability he has none. I could barely watch the first ten minutes of his first video as his reasoning is very sophistry in nature. His arguments are more against leftism (liberalism in the USA) than against atheism. That is unless you think atheism+, communism and to a lesser extent feminism/SJWism speak for all atheists. Also Christianity isn't intrusive because they were forced not to be as the door didn't open from the inside, tithing still exists within a lot of religions. He is right about some atheists claiming they are rational and skeptical whilst buying into ideologies but that is about it.
We should be MOST skeptical of ideas we like because we are sufficiently skeptical of ideas that we don't like. Penn Jillette.

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