The Stages of Jihad

[Brian Peacock]

I don't trust Muslims. The crack cocaine of religious belief. If Trump is elected I will move to America so as to live under his protective umbrella. By the end of his first term the problem of Islam in America will be half way to a solution.

First they'll come for the Muslims, and you'll cheer because you don't like Muslims....
Then they'll come for the Hindus, because they look like Muslims, and the Jews, because everybody knows what they're like right(?), and you won't mind, because you're not a Hindu or a Jew and don't know anyone who is...
Then they'll come for the 'deviants', the 'degenerates', and the 'dissidents', because they might as well make a clean sweep of things while they're at it, and you won't mind because you'll think, "I'm not one of those" and "They're making the country great again" ...
Then they'll come for the poor, because those that don't pull their weight in society shouldn't get a say or be a drain on the rest, and you won't mind because you have a job and mostly pay your bills on time...
Then they'll come for the lawyers, and the judges, the campaigners, the charity workers, the trade unionists, and the objectors from politics and the press, because "If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem" and "True patriots support our nation and want to make it great again - they won't be allowed to undermine this great nation we've all worked so hard to create", and you won't mind even as things are actually getting worse because as long as they're not looking at you everything will be OK...
And then they'll come for you, and your family, friends and neighbours won't mind because they haven't come for them, and besides, who's left to speak up for you...

[cronus]

I still don't like or trust Muslims. And anyway it might be years before they come for me with all those fall guys in front. Time enough to plan my escape.

[Collector1337]

Oh look another photoshopped image. The original without car:

Now find the other half.

[JimC]

A meaningless photo that makes no rational point whatsoever about the existence and proportions of islamic moderates. We already know there are crazies who will throw apostates off roofs, and that others will watch them...

[Tyrannical]

I don't trust Muslims. The crack cocaine of religious belief. If Trump is elected I will move to America so as to live under his protective umbrella. By the end of his first term the problem of Islam in America will be half way to a solution.

First they'll come for the Muslims, and you'll cheer because you don't like Muslims....
Then they'll come for the Hindus, because they look like Muslims, and the Jews, because everybody knows what they're like right(?), and you won't mind, because you're not a Hindu or a Jew and don't know anyone who is...
Then they'll come for the 'deviants', the 'degenerates', and the 'dissidents', because they might as well make a clean sweep of things while they're at it, and you won't mind because you'll think, "I'm not one of those" and "They're making the country great again" ...
Then they'll come for the poor, because those that don't pull their weight in society shouldn't get a say or be a drain on the rest, and you won't mind because you have a job and mostly pay your bills on time...
Then they'll come for the lawyers, and the judges, the campaigners, the charity workers, the trade unionists, and the objectors from politics and the press, because "If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem" and "True patriots support our nation and want to make it great again - they won't be allowed to undermine this great nation we've all worked so hard to create", and you won't mind even as things are actually getting worse because as long as they're not looking at you everything will be OK...
And then they'll come for you, and your family, friends and neighbours won't mind because they haven't come for them, and besides, who's left to speak up for you...

When exactly is this "then" coming? I'm getting impatient. To help

[NineBerry]

Oh look another photoshopped image. The original without car:

Now find the other half.

What other half? Someone added a photo of a burned car, then added a coexistence tag, then added some decals to the surrounding. They should teach Media Competence 101 in psychology school.

[NineBerry]

A meaningless photo that makes no rational point whatsoever about the existence and proportions of islamic moderates. We already know there are crazies who will throw apostates off roofs, and that others will watch them...

Gays are thrown off roofs. Apostates are stoned. God, do you know nothing about Islam?!

[Brian Peacock]

A meaningless photo that makes no rational point whatsoever about the existence and proportions of islamic moderates. We already know there are crazies who will throw apostates off roofs, and that others will watch them...

Might as well be a photo of a church going mafioso digging a shallow grave in the woods.

[Brian Peacock]

I don't trust Muslims. The crack cocaine of religious belief. If Trump is elected I will move to America so as to live under his protective umbrella. By the end of his first term the problem of Islam in America will be half way to a solution.

First they'll come for the Muslims, and you'll cheer because you don't like Muslims....
Then they'll come for the Hindus, because they look like Muslims, and the Jews, because everybody knows what they're like right(?), and you won't mind, because you're not a Hindu or a Jew and don't know anyone who is...
Then they'll come for the 'deviants', the 'degenerates', and the 'dissidents', because they might as well make a clean sweep of things while they're at it, and you won't mind because you'll think, "I'm not one of those" and "They're making the country great again" ...
Then they'll come for the poor, because those that don't pull their weight in society shouldn't get a say or be a drain on the rest, and you won't mind because you have a job and mostly pay your bills on time...
Then they'll come for the lawyers, and the judges, the campaigners, the charity workers, the trade unionists, and the objectors from politics and the press, because "If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem" and "True patriots support our nation and want to make it great again - they won't be allowed to undermine this great nation we've all worked so hard to create", and you won't mind even as things are actually getting worse because as long as they're not looking at you everything will be OK...
And then they'll come for you, and your family, friends and neighbours won't mind because they haven't come for them, and besides, who's left to speak up for you...

When exactly is this "then" coming? I'm getting impatient. To help

Always.

[Collector1337]

and that others will watch them...

Any do nothing to stop it.

[NineBerry]

There's not much normal people can do against organized invaders with military weapons.

[Brian Peacock]

! Police study links radicalisation to mental health problems

Half of all people feared to be at risk of terrorist sympathies may have mental health or psychological problems, a police study has found.

The findings may provide additional insight into why a minority of the population is drawn towards taking part in or supporting extremist violence. It is a problem that has been perplexing officials and experts since the modern age of terrorism began in 2001.

Chief constable Simon Cole, who is in charge of the Prevent programme, which aims to stop people supporting terrorism,said: “There would appear to be, from the work we have been doing, a link to people who are vulnerable around mental health.”

He said a range of other factors may also explain radicalisation, including anger at western foreign policy, alienation, socio-economic deprivation and religious ideology.

The police study of 500 cases dealt with by Channel, an anti-radicalisation scheme, found that 44% of the individuals involved were assessed as being likely to have vulnerabilities related to mental health or psychological difficulties. A further 15% were assessed as possibly having vulnerabilities but more assessment was needed.

“There is a thing about vulnerable individuals who need some help and support to make the right decisions because they are not very well,” Cole said.

The findings have triggered three pieces of further research, in London, the West Midlands and north-west England, “to understand that and how we can help people,” he added.

Help could include counselling and other treatments to address mental health and psychological issues.

(More: gu.com/p/4jexp

[Hermit]

He said a range of other factors may also explain radicalisation, including anger at western foreign policy, alienation, socio-economic deprivation and religious ideology.

Orly? I guess that vulnerabilities related to mental health or psychological difficulties could not possibly be catalysed by the above. And what about having a control group, and having the whole shebang conducted in a blind fashion to reduce the possibility of confirmation bias creeping in?

[JimC]

Close down specific mosques that can be shown to be epicentres of radicalisation...

[NineBerry]

Close down specific mosques that can be shown to be epicentres of radicalisation...

You mean close down Youtube?