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Low IQ may be genetic

Post by rainbow » Thu May 12, 2016 1:24 pm

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... acism.html
As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias. People with lower cognitive abilities also had less contact with people of other races. - See more at: http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... fOnWX.dpuf
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Re: Low IQ may be genetic

Post by cronus » Thu May 12, 2016 1:48 pm

rainbow wrote:http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... acism.html
As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias. People with lower cognitive abilities also had less contact with people of other races. - See more at: http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... fOnWX.dpuf
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Re: Low IQ may be genetic

Post by laklak » Thu May 12, 2016 4:12 pm

Stupid people have stupid offspring. Video at 11.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Low IQ may be genetic

Post by Forty Two » Thu May 12, 2016 4:36 pm

If low IQ causes racism, does that mean that IQs have gone up overall in the last 50, 100 and 150 years?

If indeed, racism is linked to low IQ, then surely when basically everyone was racist, the average IQ would have been much lower. Even most abolitionists of the 19th century were still racist - they may have wanted to end slavery, but they generally did not think of the races as being "equal" and they were not hanging out and dating among the races. By today's standpoint, just about everyone, white and black, were racist before the last few decades saw a dramatic reduction.

I wonder. Is the study referred to above politically biased horseshit, or have they keyed on a fact about the human brain that racism is directly related to lower IQ? Occam's Razor says....

In any case, of course IQ is genetic, lol. Why would the brain be the only organ in the body not governed by the genetic code?
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Re: Low IQ may be genetic

Post by cronus » Thu May 12, 2016 4:42 pm

If you are running lower IQ cognitions you'll read the book cover and not the book. No great mystery. Most people will read the book cover and not the book given a missed meal or two. No great mystery. :read:
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 12, 2016 5:10 pm

Forty Two wrote:If low IQ causes racism, does that mean that IQs have gone up overall in the last 50, 100 and 150 years?

If indeed, racism is linked to low IQ, then surely when basically everyone was racist, the average IQ would have been much lower. Even most abolitionists of the 19th century were still racist - they may have wanted to end slavery, but they generally did not think of the races as being "equal" and they were not hanging out and dating among the races. By today's standpoint, just about everyone, white and black, were racist before the last few decades saw a dramatic reduction.

I wonder. Is the study referred to above politically biased horseshit, or have they keyed on a fact about the human brain that racism is directly related to lower IQ? Occam's Razor says....

In any case, of course IQ is genetic, lol. Why would the brain be the only organ in the body not governed by the genetic code?
Actualy, it's EQ that has risen, IQ has stayed more or less steady, just that more of the people with it have been able to profit from it, thanks to education. I know of extremely intelligent people who were perfectly racist, except that it was the normal standard of their times
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Re: Low IQ may be genetic

Post by Forty Two » Thu May 12, 2016 5:37 pm

Exactly -- even people who were staunchly opposed to slavery in the 18th century were definitely racist.

I always smell political bias in these supposed studies that prove that one side or the other of the left-right aisle are smarter....
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Re: Low IQ may be genetic

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu May 12, 2016 6:37 pm

Forty Two wrote:If low IQ causes racism, does that mean that IQs have gone up overall in the last 50, 100 and 150 years?
Forty Two, meet the Flynn Effect.
The Flynn Effect is the observation that intelligence quotient (IQ) test scores have, on average, increased significantly from the 1930s to the present day.

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Post by cronus » Thu May 12, 2016 7:05 pm

IQ hasn't changed. Common knowledge has improved via things like the discovery channel and the web in general. And folks are better informed with numerous sources of information. The flynn effect is a reflection of a better informed populace. And if the quality of TV stalls, which it has, the flynn effect will stall, which it has. :read:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu May 12, 2016 7:15 pm

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Post by piscator » Thu May 12, 2016 7:18 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Forty Two wrote:If low IQ causes racism, does that mean that IQs have gone up overall in the last 50, 100 and 150 years?

If indeed, racism is linked to low IQ, then surely when basically everyone was racist, the average IQ would have been much lower. Even most abolitionists of the 19th century were still racist - they may have wanted to end slavery, but they generally did not think of the races as being "equal" and they were not hanging out and dating among the races. By today's standpoint, just about everyone, white and black, were racist before the last few decades saw a dramatic reduction.

I wonder. Is the study referred to above politically biased horseshit, or have they keyed on a fact about the human brain that racism is directly related to lower IQ? Occam's Razor says....

In any case, of course IQ is genetic, lol. Why would the brain be the only organ in the body not governed by the genetic code?
Actualy, it's EQ that has risen, IQ has stayed more or less steady, just that more of the people with it have been able to profit from it, thanks to education. I know of extremely intelligent people who were perfectly racist, except that it was the normal standard of their times

Yeah. I know a few people who are well spoken, but can't think their way out of a wet paper sack.
Catholic schools in America are notorious for this - producing a graduate who can speak politely and fill out a job application, but reasons at the 4th grade level and can't pour piss out of a boot without supervision.

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Re: Low IQ may be genetic

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu May 12, 2016 7:30 pm

Yeah. Chucking off religion teaches you that self-declared authorities are often not reliable sources, and that outsourcing your thinking and opinions to them only makes you a slave.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri May 13, 2016 12:10 am

Crumple wrote:IQ hasn't changed.
Test results show that it has. What likely hasn't changed is inherent intelligence, which is not the same thing as IQ.
Crumple wrote:Common knowledge has improved via things like the discovery channel and the web in general. And folks are better informed with numerous sources of information. The flynn effect is a reflection of a better informed populace. And if the quality of TV stalls, which it has, the flynn effect will stall, which it has. :read:
I would agree that the change in the results of IQ tests is very likely the result of cultural change, rather than any increase in inherent intelligence in the species. However, the apparent decrease in racism over the years that Forty Two refers to is also a cultural change. It's possible that the two are related in some way.

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Post by pErvinalia » Fri May 13, 2016 12:22 am

While IQ almost certainly has a genetic link, it's clearly not the only thing that affects it. Nature and nurture...
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