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Post by Tyrannical » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:57 am

laklak wrote:So does socialism, and certainly communism. The lumpen will always be with us. The majority of people don't have enough brain power to blow their noses, and it's only getting worse. Idiocracy is a fucking documentary. What we're going to do with them after their manual labor is no longer needed is a real issue.
Just sterilize the bottom 10% of the IQ scale. Natural selection will do the rest.

Or just outlaw silly warning labels. I always enjoy the competitiveness of the yearly Darwin Awards :hehe:
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Post by cronus » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:09 pm

Religion used to make smart and dumb folks mix for that the optimum physical health of offspring. Now we have a explosion of autistic traits at the top end of the IQ scale as systematisers mate to produce OCD morons, and a continued expansion of idjuts at the lower and middle ends of the IQ scale. Without religion there is only war and economic collapse and disease to provide the necessary social chaos to produce that health optimum oriented mixing. I'm not supporting the cause of religion but it is a long lived social tent, a powerful immortality project and some of it's evolved ways should not be overlooked when constructing a better secular society. The production of awe, by large buildings and interesting ceremony, brings folks into contact without their critical facilities fully engaged and helps with the sort of mixing that I'm thinking of, as do certain mind expansive drugs...renowned for religious mystical experience....
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:18 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
JimC wrote:
Forty Two wrote:

Capitalism is not based on taking advantage of stupid people, but serving a given market.
Maybe not completely based on, but a large part of its profit-making comes from relying on the gullibility of consumers. Companies will always push the limits in terms of persuading people to part with cash - a lot of the necessary work by government agencies these days is policing this fluid boundary, to stop people being ripped off by corporate conmen...
Exactly. Look at the Neurofen scandal in Australia this last few weeks. Sold the exact same Neurofen tablet (as the standard) repackaged in a variety of boxes claiming relief from specific ailments, and CHARGED MORE FOR IT! They got fined a couple of mill this week. Pissy little fine. The judge ruled that they didn't set out to purposely deceive people. What a load of bullshit.
Anyone who is stupid enough to buy branded painkillers in the first place when they can buy generics that are chemically identical at a tenth of the cost genuinely deserves to be ripped off.
No they don't.
Surely if meritocracy is about anything, it's about stupid people losing resources to smarter people.
You're talking about social Darwinism. That shit belongs back with the Nazis.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:24 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
laklak wrote:So does socialism, and certainly communism. The lumpen will always be with us. The majority of people don't have enough brain power to blow their noses, and it's only getting worse. Idiocracy is a fucking documentary. What we're going to do with them after their manual labor is no longer needed is a real issue.
Just sterilize the bottom 10% of the IQ scale.
But then there will be less racists in the world. :prof:
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Post by Tyrannical » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:32 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:
laklak wrote:So does socialism, and certainly communism. The lumpen will always be with us. The majority of people don't have enough brain power to blow their noses, and it's only getting worse. Idiocracy is a fucking documentary. What we're going to do with them after their manual labor is no longer needed is a real issue.
Just sterilize the bottom 10% of the IQ scale.
But then there will be less racists in the world. :prof:
That's true. But not for the reason you're thinking :hehe:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:47 pm

No, definitely for the reason I am thinking. :coffee:
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Post by Strontium Dog » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:17 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Strontium Dog wrote:Anyone who is stupid enough to buy branded painkillers in the first place when they can buy generics that are chemically identical at a tenth of the cost genuinely deserves to be ripped off.
No they don't.
And I disagree, because there are no obstacles to a buyer reading a label.
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Surely if meritocracy is about anything, it's about stupid people losing resources to smarter people.
You're talking about social Darwinism. That shit belongs back with the Nazis.
Good grief :roll:

The irony of this is that the Nazis were the brutish idiots, and they systematically liquidated the smartest, wealthiest bunch of people in their society.

I do not consider it "Social Darwinism" to believe that smarter people should be better rewarded than stupid people.

It is, however, undoubtedly elitist to believe that intelligent people are inherently more worthy than unintelligent people. If you want to call me an elitist, fine.
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Post by laklak » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:25 pm

I once actually read the loooong warning sticker on a disposable cigarette lighter. My favorite was "DO NOT USE NEAR FACE". Wha?
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:33 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Strontium Dog wrote:Anyone who is stupid enough to buy branded painkillers in the first place when they can buy generics that are chemically identical at a tenth of the cost genuinely deserves to be ripped off.
No they don't.
And I disagree, because there are no obstacles to a buyer reading a label.
It doesn't matter if there weren't obstacles to reading the label. Innocent people don't deserve to be ripped off. Sociopaths think innocent people deserve to be ripped off.
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Surely if meritocracy is about anything, it's about stupid people losing resources to smarter people.
You're talking about social Darwinism. That shit belongs back with the Nazis.
Good grief :roll:

The irony of this is that the Nazis were the brutish idiots, and they systematically liquidated the smartest, wealthiest bunch of people in their society.

I do not consider it "Social Darwinism" to believe that smarter people should be better rewarded than stupid people.

It is, however, undoubtedly elitist to believe that intelligent people are inherently more worthy than unintelligent people. If you want to call me an elitist, fine.
You're an elitist. But I already knew that as almost all liberals are elitists.

Fuck this forum is full of shit now. Bloody sad. :(
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Post by Tyrannical » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:03 pm

laklak wrote:I once actually read the loooong warning sticker on a disposable cigarette lighter. My favorite was "DO NOT USE NEAR FACE". Wha?
That's actually different because they expect you to use it near your face to light your cigarette. That warning is just a lame attempt to get out of liability if it happens to explode.
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Post by laklak » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:13 pm

The majority of people are stupid. That's anecdotal, of course, though in my 62 years I've dealt with quite a few of them in many different situations, and can say with some authority that most of them are, in fact, stupid as a bag of rocks. They'll believe damn near anything. Ancient aliens, haints and spirits, God, coffee enemas, superfoods, The Popiel Pocket Fisherman (and it REALLY catches fish!). The fact that we manage to maintain some level of technological civilization at all astounds me sometimes, let alone do shit like land spacecraft on comets. Imagine what we could accomplish if we didn't have to drag all these fucking morons around behind us. The only way forward is mass sterilization.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:19 pm

laklak wrote:The majority of people are stupid. That's anecdotal, of course, though in my 62 years I've dealt with quite a few of them in many different situations, and can say with some authority that most of them are, in fact, stupid as a bag of rocks. They'll believe damn near anything. Ancient aliens, haints and spirits, God, coffee enemas, superfoods, The Popiel Pocket Fisherman (and it REALLY catches fish!). The fact that we manage to maintain some level of technological civilization at all astounds me sometimes, let alone do shit like land spacecraft on comets. Imagine what we could accomplish if we didn't have to drag all these fucking morons around behind us. The only way forward is mass sterilization.
I know you probably weren't expecting a serious reply to this... But it's interesting to hear you admit that (that most people are stupid; I agree, by the way, particularly if I am allowed to include poorly educated with stupid). As a libertarian you are supposed to believe in that rational actor guff. Lucky Seth isn't here now to hear you blaspheme like this! :biggrin:
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Post by laklak » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:50 pm

That's why I'm not a Big "L" libertarian. Sheep need shepherds. It's like gun control, I'm all for it as long as I'm the one doing the controlling. The thing is, being a rational actor means you need to be rational in the first place, and most people are about as rational as a bag of rats in a burning meth lab.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by cronus » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:06 pm

Oil began by giving rational folks 150 imaginary slaves to control the herd of mindless humans in their midst. It is now down to 30 imaginary slaves. And soon it will be on a parity with Ancient Rome. From that much follows. :read:
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Post by Strontium Dog » Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:04 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Fuck this forum is full of shit now. Bloody sad. :(
What are you so sad for? You're no idiot. You'd most likely be better off in a truly meritocratic society where wealth went to the smartest.
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