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Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:25 pm

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LOL -- 20% off your income, if you think that regardless of career choices, hours worked, etc., all people should make the same money, then sure.

And, on what planet does the government make health decisions for women? The government certainly takes women-specific health issues much more seriously than men-specific health issues -- more attention, more mobilization, more funding, more research, etc.

And, frankly, Hillary will get nowhere with the typical "If I were a man, nobody would ever say that about me" nonsense. I heard a woman on CNN yesterday say that nobody would comment about a man's hair or physique -- Trump will never let that shit pass. He'll have the wit to point out that Trump has been criticized for his hair incessantly. And, not only his hair but his skin and skin color. And, he has even been criticized for probably having a small unit due to his small hands. Oh, right - nobody ever criticizes a man for things about their appearance and sexuality -- riiiiiiiiiggghhhht!.

That's one of the advantages Trump has against Hillary -- he has been so ill-treated in the media -- basically called a joke, a buffoon -- his name is mocked, being called Drumpf. He is called a failure, a fraud, a conman, with orange hair, a weird mouth, a world-class "comb-over" that looks ridiculous, orange skin, and all sorts of other nasty descriptors. Hillary, on the other hand, has traditionally been given the "woman treatment" - she's fierce! She's a fighter! She's soooo accomplished! She's sooooo smart! And, then they ignore her scandals, and the media never ever criticize her appearance.

That's what Trump means when he's talking about the woman card -- in the media, we here all the time that women are the ones whose appearance is criticized, but that never happens to men, who are automatically taken seriously. The reality is that men are criticized and mocked all the time - George Bush compared to a monkey in political cartoons for example -- the difference is that nobody feels sorry for a man when it happens.
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Post by Animavore » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:28 pm

George Bush is comparable to a monkey. 'Cause he sort of is. That's a pretty terrible attempt at an insult for anyone.
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:12 pm

Women don't want to be treated as equals. If you suggested a law where the number of stay at home mothers equaled the number of stay at home fathers, as well as child custody battles was determined equally including child support, women would not want that.
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Post by Tero » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:20 pm

[sarcasm]That's onetwo of the advantages Trump has against Hillary, he has testicles.[/sarcasm]

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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:38 pm

Trump was one of the early adopters in big real-estate to promote women to the upper level. Trump is probably one of the least sexist people in politics. He promotes women because they are qualified, not because of quotas or he thinks he has to. He does it based on ability. His daughter ivanka runs his company because she is more qualified than his sons.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:40 am

Tyrannical wrote:Women don't want to be treated as equals. If you suggested a law where the number of stay at home mothers equaled the number of stay at home fathers, as well as child custody battles was determined equally including child support, women would not want that.
I'm pretty sure most of them would (even granting your silly hypothetical about the state deciding who should stay home). As with the other posters with questionably views on women, you are confusing an extreme tiny minority with the majority.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:43 am

Tyrannical wrote:Trump was one of the early adopters in big real-estate to promote women to the upper level. Trump is probably one of the least sexist people in politics.
Not according to his former VP - http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... n-20160329
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Post by Tyrannical » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:16 am

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Tyrannical wrote:Trump was one of the early adopters in big real-estate to promote women to the upper level. Trump is probably one of the least sexist people in politics.
Not according to his former VP - http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... n-20160329
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Did you feel he treated you differently than your male colleagues?
No, he did not treat me differently. He was tough on everybody. He was either the best or the worst, like he is today. I mean, everything is either the best or the worst, and sometimes he was really good and sometimes he was really bad, but he was tough on everybody. He didn't treat women any differently from men, not back then. Again, you're talking 25, 30 years ago.
Trump might be a lot of things, but sexist isn't one of them. Isn't the point to treat men and women equally? He does have plenty of sexist women critics that think he should treat men and women differently.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:26 am

He definitely wasn't sexist to Meghan Kelly.
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Post by Tyrannical » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:52 am

rEvolutionist wrote:He definitely wasn't sexist to Meghan Kelly.
He was certainly mean and insulting to her. But as I said, he treats men and women the same.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:21 am

When you make a comment about her menstruation, then it is sexist.

I think generally he's just a bully and can't handle people scrutinising him. That he would use a slur about her femaleness to insult her probably fits in well with his bully persona.
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Post by rachelbean » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:19 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Women don't want to be treated as equals. If you suggested a law where the number of stay at home mothers equaled the number of stay at home fathers, as well as child custody battles was determined equally including child support, women would not want that.
I'm pretty sure most of them would (even granting your silly hypothetical about the state deciding who should stay home). As with the other posters with questionably views on women, you are confusing an extreme tiny minority with the majority.
Don't be silly rev! Tyrannical obviously knows a lot about women. Now leave me alone so I can get back to my nagging Pappa about raising my allowance.

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Post by JimC » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:34 am

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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:43 am

rachelbean wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Women don't want to be treated as equals. If you suggested a law where the number of stay at home mothers equaled the number of stay at home fathers, as well as child custody battles was determined equally including child support, women would not want that.
I'm pretty sure most of them would (even granting your silly hypothetical about the state deciding who should stay home). As with the other posters with questionably views on women, you are confusing an extreme tiny minority with the majority.
Don't be silly rev! Tyrannical obviously knows a lot about women. Now leave me alone so I can get back to my nagging Pappa about raising my allowance.
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Post by Animavore » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:58 am

rachelbean wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Women don't want to be treated as equals. If you suggested a law where the number of stay at home mothers equaled the number of stay at home fathers, as well as child custody battles was determined equally including child support, women would not want that.
I'm pretty sure most of them would (even granting your silly hypothetical about the state deciding who should stay home). As with the other posters with questionably views on women, you are confusing an extreme tiny minority with the majority.
Don't be silly rev! Tyrannical obviously knows a lot about women. Now leave me alone so I can get back to my nagging Pappa about raising my allowance.
You're doing it wrong. You should be giving him an allowance of his own money.
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