Harriett Tubman to go on the $20 bill

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Harriett Tubman to go on the $20 bill

Post by Forty Two » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:38 pm

“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Harriett Tubman to go on the $20 bill

Post by rachelbean » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:38 am

Probably a good idea to quote part of a story, rather than just a link. Helps aid conversation...
Harriet Tubman will bump Andrew Jackson from the front of the $20 bill while Alexander Hamilton will stay put on the $10 — a historic move that gives a woman prime placement on U.S. currency and quells a controversy kicked up by Hamilton super-fans.
“Today, I’m excited to announce that for the first time in more than a century, the front of our currency will feature the portrait of a woman, Harriet Tubman, on the $20 note,” Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told reporters during a conference call Wednesday afternoon. “Her incredible story of courage and commitment to equality embody the ideals of democracy that our nation celebrates, and we’ll continue to value her legacy by honoring her on our currency.”
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Lew rolled out sweeping changes that will put a new cast of historic figures onto various bills that have remained largely static for decades. Leaders of the women’s suffrage movement will make their way onto the back of the $10 bill, while civil rights era leaders and other important moments in American history will be incorporated into the $5 bill. Jackson will be kicked to the back of the $20 bill.
The plan is a major reversal for Lew, who appeared taken aback by the swift rebukes Treasury received last summer when he announced that he was considering replacing Hamilton on the $10 bill with a woman.
While he explained that Hamilton was on the chopping block as a matter of practicality – the $10 bill was the next one up for a redesign – Lew still got an earful from fans of Hamilton, who helped create the Treasury Department and the modern American financial system.
Critics immediately called for Lew to take Jackson off the $20 bill instead, given the former president's role in moving Native Americans off their land.
Lew told POLITICO last July that Treasury was exploring ways to respond to critics. “There are a number of options of how we can resolve this,” Lew said. “We’re not taking Alexander Hamilton off our currency.”


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Former Republican presidential candidate and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, however, expressed his love for Tubman and what she accomplished but suggested that placing her on the $2 bill would be a more appropriate honor.
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Re: Harriett Tubman to go on the $20 bill

Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:48 am

She's replacing Andrew Jackson on the 20, pretty symbolic giving how much of a slave owner >Jackson was.

What's that thing about Carson pushing for her to go on the $2 bill? Isn't that bill much hated and pretty rare anyway?
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:35 am

There's already a more deserving Tubman on a $20 bill :zilla:

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Re: Harriett Tubman to go on the $20 bill

Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:46 pm

The last time a woman was on a paper note was in the late 1800s, when First Lady Martha Washington appeared on the $1 silver certificate. Pocahontas was on the $20 bill from 1865 to 1869. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-h ... story.html
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:02 pm

Well, the US hasn't really had very many women that reached a certain level of greatness. The most famous ones were famous for whining that they weren't treated fairly. Putting one of those women on money is actually insulting to women because it just reinforces their lack of real achievement. Margeret Sanger would be a much more appropriate choice, but I still don't think she accomplished enough to be that noteworthy.
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Re: Harriett Tubman to go on the $20 bill

Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:13 pm

I think Pocahontas would be a good one. Here are my suggestions.

Harriett Tubman, $20 bill
Pocahontas - dime
Abigail Adams - penny
Martha Washington - fifty cent piece
Molly Pitcher - $10 bill
Sacajawea - $2 bill
Clara Barton - quarter
Annie Oakley - dollar coin
Eleanor Roosevelt - $50 bill
Amelia Earhart - $100 bill

The rest can remain the same.
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Re: Harriett Tubman to go on the $20 bill

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:44 pm

I want to see Richard Feynman on the $50, and Bessie Smith on the $100.
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:45 pm

Pocahontas was more mythical than real. Amelia Earhart failed. Like who would rember Charles Lindberg if he died and failed? Eleanor Roosevelt probably should have been jailed for unconstitutionaly usurping Presidential power while FDR was incapacitated.
Clara Barton not too bad, but I don't think at that level of greatness.
Moly pitcher is more folk tale than real.
Sacagewa, was a more minor player in the Lewis and Clark story.
Annie Oakley? Not before Buffalo Bill makes it on currency.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:48 pm

Helen Keller on the $75 bill? Surely another truly great American?
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Re: Harriett Tubman to go on the $20 bill

Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:50 pm

Pocahontas was a real person, she even went (and died) in England, here's a portrait made of her during her life
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Re: Harriett Tubman to go on the $20 bill

Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:56 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Pocahontas was more mythical than real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocahontas
Tyrannical wrote: Amelia Earhart failed. Like who would rember Charles Lindberg if he died and failed?
Earhart did enough before that flight to warrant being on a bill.
Tyrannical wrote: Eleanor Roosevelt probably should have been jailed for unconstitutionaly usurping Presidential power while FDR was incapacitated.
Meh.
Tyrannical wrote: Clara Barton not too bad, but I don't think at that level of greatness.
Moly pitcher is more folk tale than real.
Most of our founding fathers are more folk tale than real.
Tyrannical wrote: Sacagewa, was a more minor player in the Lewis and Clark story.
Annie Oakley? Not before Buffalo Bill makes it on currency.
When picking chicks for the money, we can't really go by what men were up to.

Annie should be on there holding a gun. A nice finger in the eye of the "progressives."
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:59 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:Helen Keller on the $75 bill? Surely another truly great American?
There is no $75 bill.
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:01 pm

Hellen Keller wouldn't know lol
And it wasn't even me that made that tasteless joke.
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:13 pm

I know all about pocohantus, was raised early life in Virginia and have been to jamestown. Her status is more mythical than real and deserved.
At least a half dozen nasa astronauts are more deserving than amelia Earhart.
Clara Barton is noted as a mythical figure. It wasn't her real name and we aren't even sure who she really was.
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