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Post by Seth » Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:54 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:He needs to "get over" his depression. And his obesity.
Indeed. The difference is that I neither blame anyone else for them, nor do I expect society to hide all the chocolate mini-donuts or things that might depress me in the world from me because I might be "triggered" by seeing them.

That I need to "get over" such things doesn't mean I'm undeserving of assistance (or pharmaceuticals) that help me do so, it just means that I have no right to impose on YOUR liberty to buy chocolate mini-donuts just because I might be "triggered" by seeing them on the shelf by demanding that they be removed or hidden away.

See how that works?
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:16 pm

Who's imposing on anyone's liberty? :think:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:15 pm

Stephen Fry wrote:Oh goodness, what fun twitter was in the early days, a secret bathing-pool in a magical glade in an enchanted forest. It was glorious ‘to turn as swimmers into cleanness leaping.’ We frolicked and water-bombed and sometimes, in the moonlight, skinny-dipped. We chattered and laughed and put the world to rights and shared thoughts sacred, silly and profane. But now the pool is stagnant. It is frothy with scum, clogged with weeds and littered with broken glass, sharp rocks and slimy rubbish. If you don’t watch yourself, with every move you’ll end up being gashed, broken, bruised or contused. Even if you negotiate the sharp rocks you’ll soon feel that too many people have peed in the pool for you to want to swim there any more. The fun is over.

To leave that metaphor, let us grieve at what twitter has become. A stalking ground for the sanctimoniously self-righteous who love to second-guess, to leap to conclusions and be offended – worse, to be offended on behalf of others they do not even know. It’s as nasty and unwholesome a characteristic as can be imagined. It doesn’t matter whether they think they’re defending women, men, transgender people, Muslims, humanists … the ghastliness is absolutely the same. It makes sensible people want to take an absolutely opposite point of view. I’ve heard people shriek their secularism in such a way as to make me want instantly to become an evangelical Christian.

But Stephen, these foul people are a minority! Indeed they are. But I would contend that just one turd in a reservoir is enough to persuade one not to drink from it. 99.9% of the water may be excrement free, but that doesn’t help. With Twitter, for me at least, the tipping point has been reached and the pollution of the service is now just too much.

But you’ve let the trolls and nasties win! If everyone did what you did, Stephen, the slab-faced dictators of tone and humour would have the place to themselves. Well, yes and they’re welcome to it. Perhaps then they’ll have nothing to smell but their own smell.

So I don’t feel anything today other than massive relief, like a boulder rolling off my chest. I am free, free at last.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:55 pm

Bit ridiculous. There's not much positive or negative you can say in 144 characters (or however many it is). It's the least social of social networks. It couldn't be any other way.
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Post by Animavore » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:17 pm

And yet Dawkins manages to say something offensive every time.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:24 pm

Yeah, he does have a knack for it. :hehe:
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Post by Seth » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:51 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Who's imposing on anyone's liberty? :think:
Marxist Progressive liberal fascists who impose food-based regulations that constrain consumer free choice in the marketplace...like Michelle's school lunch dictates, that's who.
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Post by Seth » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:54 am

Stephen Fry wrote: To leave that metaphor, let us grieve at what twitter has become. A stalking ground for the sanctimoniously self-righteous who love to second-guess, to leap to conclusions and be offended – worse, to be offended on behalf of others they do not even know. It’s as nasty and unwholesome a characteristic as can be imagined. It doesn’t matter whether they think they’re defending women, men, transgender people, Muslims, humanists … the ghastliness is absolutely the same. It makes sensible people want to take an absolutely opposite point of view. I’ve heard people shriek their secularism in such a way as to make me want instantly to become an evangelical Christian.
Fucking brilliant! He expresses my fury with cultural Marxism and liberal fascism quite well. I'd say not just twitter though, it's become a pervasive meme in society as a whole and it pollutes virtually every forum of public communication.

Mod Note: I just self-censored my statement by removing the words "including this one" from the end of the above sentence out of fear of being suspended by JimC for attacking forum members indirectly.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:56 am

I thought the thread was about trigger warnings and child abuse. What the fuck are you on about? And what the fuck are Michelle's school lunches?
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rEvolutionist wrote:Bit ridiculous. There's not much positive or negative you can say in 144 characters (or however many it is). It's the least social of social networks. It couldn't be any other way.
You'd be very surprised just how wrong you are if you bothered to check the accuracy of your claim, which you evidently didn't.
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rEvolutionist wrote:I thought the thread was about trigger warnings and child abuse. What the fuck are you on about? And what the fuck are Michelle's school lunches?
You thought wrong. Not for the first time either.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:59 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:Bit ridiculous. There's not much positive or negative you can say in 144 characters (or however many it is). It's the least social of social networks. It couldn't be any other way.
You'd be very surprised just how wrong you are if you bothered to check the accuracy of your claim, which you evidently didn't.
I have. I'm on Twitter and trolling is utterly ineffectual. Twitter is only good for quickly sharing news.
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rEvolutionist wrote:I thought the thread was about trigger warnings and child abuse. What the fuck are you on about? And what the fuck are Michelle's school lunches?
If you can't see the connection, then you aren't as smart as I had guessed you were.

If you can see the connection, then...

Dammit.

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:02 am

Fuck off. Trigger warnings have nothing to do with food.
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Post by Cunt » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:07 am

I am not certain who rEv is telling to 'Fuck off', but does it fit under the 'play nice' rule? I would have avoided saying such to him because of my understanding of that rule.
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