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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Cunt » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:17 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:What in the fuck are you on about? Are you totally incapable of posting something of substance on the thread topic?
It may be problematic that you continually insult me while offering nothing relevant to the topic at hand.

I sure wish you would be less problematic.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:45 pm

Forty Two wrote:
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200 years ago there wasn't equal rights for men, either.
:fp: They didn't need it as they were almost solely the decision makers in society and the family.
LOL - well, I will thank you for the admission. We are agreed. 200 years ago, there wasn't equal rights for men, either. Agreed.
Men held virtually all positions of power. You are singularly a genius at missing the point.
Again, projection, and complete lack of self-awareness.

But, I'll bite -- what is it that you think the point is?

Evasion and obfuscation in 3, 2, 1....
Pointing out that you repeatedly miss simple points that have been made repeatedly in a thread is not "evasion and obfuscation". I pretty much have to do this for you in every major thread we debate in. I'm sick to death of it. Why is it you can't fucking read what is written and keep it in mind when you make posts down the line in a thread? Why do I have to repeatedly waste my time making the same point to you (no one else, other than Seth, displays this problem) over and over and over again in a thread, and in the end have to end up posting links to the points you aren't getting? I only end up posting those links because you start up with your bullshit that I am being evasive etc. Yet thread after thread when I have to do this, you do it again in new threads. The reason I don't initially post those links is that I'm hoping that in one fucking thread some fucking day you will stop with the disingenuous bullshit and actually address what is written, instead of addressing the strawmen your biased brain keeps throwing up. I think that makes me insane. Doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a different outcome. I need sedation..
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:49 pm

Cunt wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:What in the fuck are you on about? Are you totally incapable of posting something of substance on the thread topic?
It may be problematic that you continually insult me while offering nothing relevant to the topic at hand.

I sure wish you would be less problematic.
You know you can get medication for tourettes, right? :ask:

Problematic.... problematic.... problematic... problematic... problematic.... graph of problematic... graph of problematic... problematic... problematic... etc etc etc... :insane:
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Re: Problematic Stuff

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rEvolutionist wrote:
Cunt wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:What in the fuck are you on about? Are you totally incapable of posting something of substance on the thread topic?
It may be problematic that you continually insult me while offering nothing relevant to the topic at hand.

I sure wish you would be less problematic.
You know you can get medication for tourettes, right? :ask:

Problematic.... problematic.... problematic... problematic... problematic.... graph of problematic... graph of problematic... problematic... problematic... etc etc etc... :insane:
You know the 'play nice' rule here?

Apparently, you don't care about it as much as you care about being abusive and insulting.

I know a couple of individuals with Tourettes Syndrome who are much classier than you have shown here. For instance, they don't say 'you are SUCH a rEv' as an insult.


I guess it's easy to pick on folks with disabilities, though.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:00 am

Trolololol.
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:03 pm

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Pointing out that you repeatedly miss simple points that have been made repeatedly in a thread is not "evasion and obfuscation". I pretty much have to do this for you in every major thread we debate in. I'm sick to death of it. Why is it you can't fucking read what is written and keep it in mind when you make posts down the line in a thread? Why do I have to repeatedly waste my time making the same point to you (no one else, other than Seth, displays this problem) over and over and over again in a thread, and in the end have to end up posting links to the points you aren't getting? I only end up posting those links because you start up with your bullshit that I am being evasive etc. Yet thread after thread when I have to do this, you do it again in new threads. The reason I don't initially post those links is that I'm hoping that in one fucking thread some fucking day you will stop with the disingenuous bullshit and actually address what is written, instead of addressing the strawmen your biased brain keeps throwing up. I think that makes me insane. Doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a different outcome. I need sedation..

You don't "point out" any points that I've missed, repeatedly or otherwise. You make an assertion that I've missed points, and then you don't set forth what that "point" is. Knowing you, it was probably either: (a) not really the point at all, or (b) you didn't really make the point you're now saying I missed, or (c) it was a really stupid point. You use your allegation that "Forty Two missed the point" as a way to start arguing about something other than the point -- you want to argue about whether someone missed the point as opposed to just getting to the fucking point.

You don't "have to" drone on like you do about missing points or other non-argument-related issues. That's what you choose to do. Given your admission that you identify people as undesirables and then hound them until you drive them off the site, or get suspended yourself, it's probably part of your practice to do this kind of thing. It's just who you are.

I don't repeatedly miss points of yours. This allegation of yours is false, and is your attempt to evade and obfuscate. Knowing the points you have made, they tend to be offered without evidence and are not presented in a cogent way. You are also under the mistaken impression that your bald, unsupported assertions somehow control the subject-matter of a thread. Because you said something, you think everyone else should take notice of it. It's like you think your points and arguments are strong. Where do you get that idea?

Calling me disingenuous? That's rich. You're projecting -- I suspect you think because you're a dishonest person, that everyone else must be. Since you play posting and trolling games and AtheismPlus bullshit, you think everyone else must be acting like you.
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:05 pm

Cunt wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Cunt wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:What in the fuck are you on about? Are you totally incapable of posting something of substance on the thread topic?
It may be problematic that you continually insult me while offering nothing relevant to the topic at hand.

I sure wish you would be less problematic.
You know you can get medication for tourettes, right? :ask:

Problematic.... problematic.... problematic... problematic... problematic.... graph of problematic... graph of problematic... problematic... problematic... etc etc etc... :insane:
You know the 'play nice' rule here?

Apparently, you don't care about it as much as you care about being abusive and insulting.

I know a couple of individuals with Tourettes Syndrome who are much classier than you have shown here. For instance, they don't say 'you are SUCH a rEv' as an insult.


I guess it's easy to pick on folks with disabilities, though.
Actually, rEv admitted what he does -- of course he doesn't mind being abusive and insulting. If he finds you to be undesirable, then he's going to hound you until he can drive you off the site.
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Post by Cunt » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:09 pm

I just had a thought. Perhaps rEv is a bot, programmed to meta-argue and we are fools for falling for it. I think I will simply pass by any of its idiocy from here on, except if there is a joke to be made. Or if I feel like it.
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by rachelbean » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:13 pm

It takes two or more to tango. The more ignoring of derailing and personal shit that has nothing to do with the topic at hand the better.

As for problematic stuff:
On April Fool's day I saw I post on Facebook which said to "think before you post" things such as fake pregnancy announcements because you could hurt someone who is infertile or otherwise incapable of having children. I still am confused by that logic. I mean I understand why someone knowing other people are getting pregnant when they want to can be painful, but that goes for every day of the year. Is it because it is put in the form of a joke? Still don't understand how that makes it any different. I mean shouldn't you then also avoid posting real pregnancy announcements, or birth announcements or heck anything to do with your children? :ask:
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:01 pm

Cunt wrote:I just had a thought.
There's a first time for everything, I guess... :razzle:
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:03 pm

Indeed, Rachel, I would think that even a real pregnancy announcement would be just as problematic. Like, a facebook celebration and Bill and Mary are pregnant! Woo hoo! That is problematic for people who can't get pregnant or who are having trouble getting pregnant. By the same token, it might be problematic for those that don't like babies at all, and don't want them.

I just read that the University of New Hampshire published a guide to problematic language -- terms such as "American," "homosexual," "illegal alien," "Caucasian," "mothering," "fathering," and "foreigners," are deemed "problematic." LOL. See. Mothering and fathering themselves are problematic terms!

I raised an eyebrow at Caucasian. Not sure why that's problematic.

Saying “American” to reference Americans is also problematic. The guide encourages the use of the more inclusive substitutes “U.S. citizen” or “Resident of the U.S.” To all the non-Murricans out there....err, I mean, the non-U.S. Citizens or non-residents of the US -- this stuff applies to you too. I mean, calling a German a German is problematic. You are citizens of Germany or residents of Germany.

The word "healthy" is also problematic.

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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:09 pm

That had to have come out on April Fools day. That's fucking nuts.
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Cunt » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:04 pm

rachelbean wrote: As for problematic stuff:
On April Fool's day I saw I post on Facebook which said to "think before you post" things such as fake pregnancy announcements because you could hurt someone who is infertile or otherwise incapable of having children. I still am confused by that logic. I mean I understand why someone knowing other people are getting pregnant when they want to can be painful, but that goes for every day of the year. Is it because it is put in the form of a joke? Still don't understand how that makes it any different. I mean shouldn't you then also avoid posting real pregnancy announcements, or birth announcements or heck anything to do with your children? :ask:
I have noticed that a lot of people are insistent that you can't joke about a given group, or subject. To me, that is singling out in a worse way than joking about it.

For instance, if you forbade joking about women, because rachelbean might be upset by it, would you not (as rachelbean) be a bit bothered by the different treatment?

I think singling out any group, be they a racial group, rape victims or politicians, by making it unacceptable to joke about them, would be like saying they were too weak or frail to be treated like anyone else.

I have known members of ALL those groups who were strong, weak, or anywhere in between.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:05 pm

I don't see a problem with that, therefore there is no problem.
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Forty Two » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:19 am

rEvolutionist wrote:That had to have come out on April Fools day. That's fucking nuts.
I'm telling you, the US is rife with that bullshit. It's not a joke, and it's taken seriously. This is the perniciousness of social justice identity politics coming to the fore.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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