Racism about islam can't exist: islam isn't a race: Poll
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Hillary and Bernie are not members of the GOP presidential debate. So, who of you is Cruz and who is Rubio?
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Re: Racism about islam can't exist: islam isn't a race: Poll
Seth.NineBerry wrote:Hillary and Bernie are not members of the GOP presidential debate. So, who of you is Cruz and who is Rubio?
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Actually, the reason you can't be racist against Islam is that racism means prejudice plus power. Islam is a religion of about 1.4 billion people, and is among the major power groups in the world. Islam is an oppressor group, and therefore one cannot be racist against them. Don't blame me, that's the Progressive rule, so....NineBerry wrote:The statement is wrong.
Firstly, being black isn't a race either. Secondly, the term racism is nowaday generally used in a broader way meaning xenophobia.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Islamaphobia is racism to the same extent as Christianaphobia, Hinduphobia or Buddhiphobia. Heck, we atheists probably have theophobia.Exi5tentialist wrote:Yeah but the point of the question is to debunk that construction. After all, words are defined by their usage. If people are using the word racism to describe islamophobia, no force in the universe can declare them to be wrong. Surely.Rum wrote:By definition Islam is a religion and arguably a culture. It isn't a race. Bloody obvious ffs!
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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That's true, which is why the nutters are off-kilter when they start clamouring on about how some Egyptians, Cubans or Iranians in the movies were played by white people.NineBerry wrote:Having darker skin isn't a race either.Rum wrote:By definition Islam is a religion and arguably a culture. It isn't a race. Bloody obvious ffs!
But, having darker skin is relevant when you're talking about race because a black African is racially African, whereas a white African is racially Caucasian. It's not that all people with darker skin are of a particular race. It's that there are morphologies that apply to determining racial classifications.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Definitely correct. Xenophobia is the irrational dislike of foreigners, and bigotry is intolerance towards different ideas. One can even be bigoted against bigotry. Weird.rEvolutionist wrote:Islam doesn't meet the racists definition of "race". So it can't be racism. But it can be xenophobia/bigotry.
I don't like Islam, but I'm not a bigot. I'm not "intolerant" of Muslims. I'm extremely tolerant.
I'm not Islamaphobic because my dislike of Islam is not "irrational." I am not Muslimphobic, though.
I better way to address this Islamaphobia nonsense is not to declare that Islam is not a race. Rather, simply declare that Islam is a set of ideas and dogmas. Like a philosophy, it's not "phobic" to argue against, criticize, and even ridicule ideas we think are bad. The perniciousness of the term Islamaphobia is that the concept can be used to create other victim groups -- like Republiphobia for the dislike of Republicans. The fact that a set of beliefs calls itself a religion is not a feature that makes it worthy of protection.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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That's a microaggression.rEvolutionist wrote:well, there's no such thing as race,
It goes like this --rEvolutionist wrote: so it is essentially defined by the racists. Traditionally it refers to the caucasians, asians, africans, and actually i don't know what else. Maybe Aborigines/PNGs and Lapeta people (polynesians etc)?
Nordic are the top - top Aryans
Germanic come next - Aryans
Mediterranean peoples - lower Aryans
The Japanese and Chinese are honorary Aryans - not caucasian, but better than slavs, Jews and Arabs
Slavs - non-aryan untermensch.
Hamitic and Semitic Peoples -- Jews and Arabs mostly - lowest level of Caucasians.
Mongoloids (excluding purebred Chinese and Japanese), American Indians, Malayans
Mixed race folks, like mulattos, zambos and such
Equatorial Africans and Indigenous Australians.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Islam is a creed (deen) It is also a personality cult based on the (alleged) life of a dishonest ,murderous, vain glorious Paedophile " Mohammed " {PISS ON HIS EVIL NAME }He was a failed trader turned leader of a gang of thieves rapists and slavers .
To say that If I call out people who claim He was the" BEST OF MEN " makes me a racist is farcical .
I would suggest that ANYONE who claims being DISGUSTED by the teachings, the root and Branch of ISLAM is RACISM should actually try reading the Quran and the Hadith ...
I would like a reply from everyone who(forgot they are atheists) and voted to call me a racist !
Maybe all the atheism you are capable of is objecting to nativity scenes on public property, maybe you think that is important but as an atheist being outspoken against the disgusting RELIGION of Islam is my DUTY .
Islamaphobic that would mean I'm 'irrationally ' against slavery, torture, theft, murder and The rape of CRYING CONFUSED 9 YEAR OLD CHILDREN ?
Learn something about Islam before you call people racists !
To say that If I call out people who claim He was the" BEST OF MEN " makes me a racist is farcical .
I would suggest that ANYONE who claims being DISGUSTED by the teachings, the root and Branch of ISLAM is RACISM should actually try reading the Quran and the Hadith ...
I would like a reply from everyone who(forgot they are atheists) and voted to call me a racist !
Maybe all the atheism you are capable of is objecting to nativity scenes on public property, maybe you think that is important but as an atheist being outspoken against the disgusting RELIGION of Islam is my DUTY .
Islamaphobic that would mean I'm 'irrationally ' against slavery, torture, theft, murder and The rape of CRYING CONFUSED 9 YEAR OLD CHILDREN ?
Learn something about Islam before you call people racists !
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Is the overwhelming majority of Muslims brown-skinned?tattuchu wrote:Well since the overwhelming majority of muslims are brown-skinned, and brown-skinned people are evil and inherently inferior, I think it's a fair conclusion that the hating of Islamists is racist (though of course completely justified)
Arabs and Persians are Caucasian.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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There is a huge Godwin here If I said I hate Nazis would I be a racist ? If i said people who praise and adore the MONSTER Hitler and claim he was the BEST OF MEN are WRONG would that make me a Racist ? I mean most Nazis, then and now, are 'white' so surely I cannot say I HATE NAZIS without being a racist ?
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They COULD be racist. Just like they COULD be racist if they do a New York accent and make bad jokes about thin crust pizza and hot dogs with sauerkraut, or do a southern white-American accent and make bad jokes about inbreeding.Exi5tentialist wrote:Are you even being serious? Someone doing a Pakistani accent and making bad jokes about curry can't possibly be being racist unless they black up? Give us a break.rEvolutionist wrote:No, those things are an indicator of culture. Phenotype is the indicator of race.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Wait, is the assertion that calling a burka a "full bin liner" is "racist?"Exi5tentialist wrote:rEvolutionist wrote:You are doing it again. You are confusing two separate terms: race, and racism. Hermit and I are talking about race. What I said stands. And your reply is a non-sequitur. Again.
And I agree, you don't need the concept of race to have such a thing as racism. But if you are using indicators of race to denigrate people, then you're still a racist anyway. And Richard Dawkins is a racist.
Would it be anti-semitic to say that a yarmulke looks like a bin lid?
What about when people joke about how the Pope, Cardinals and various priests and nuns dress? Would be racist to say that a bunch of nuns look like penguins or that the Pope is wearing a dress? Or, that their hats are funny?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Well, I think that people can find a manner of dress distasteful without finding a particular race distasteful.Exi5tentialist wrote: What's that got to do with his racism over the woman wearing the abaya? Why is that even a muslim thing? The abaya is a common garment worn by women in certain regions of Africa. How does it being muslim dress, or muslims existing in indonesia, stop that being a fact?
Your logic is, like, if a manner of dress is worn equally by all races, then one can revile it without being racist, but if it happens to be something worn more by one race than another, then it's racist to revile the manner of dress.
Look, if someone finds the over-modest dress of Amish women distasteful, because they cover themselves from neck to toe and generally don't even show ankles and wrists, and says they look like they are wearing bin liners, would they be racist? Is it "racist" to tell a joke like: "What goes clip clop, clip clop, clip clop - bang bang!
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“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Islam is a sexist religion, and by your definition, a racist one, too.Exi5tentialist wrote:And racist. And sexist.rEvolutionist wrote:But still, Dawkins is a cock. His pronouncements on feminism, and Islam, are usually highly inflammatory and often quite stupid.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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ah ! 'feminists' that defend the niqab .... I guess they are happy to defend female circumcision too ? Well i mean it is a cultural thing mostly practiced by Brown skinned people and OBVIOUSLY If I object It is because I@M A RACIST ??????
I don't think Ex5stentialist knows ANYTHING about Islam I would recommend he talks to some apostates !
I don't think Ex5stentialist knows ANYTHING about Islam I would recommend he talks to some apostates !
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