College Students Engage in Lawful Behavior Off-Campus

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College Students Engage in Lawful Behavior Off-Campus

Post by Forty Two » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:32 pm

http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Fai ... 846654.php

Naturally, investigate them and see what the university will do about the off-campus behavior.

Also, let's "hold extended evening hours to talk to students about the incident, ....In addition, the student government association was to hold an emergency meeting to plan a student forum on the subject." As we all know, adults need to have authority figures counsel them when other people do things in private homes, off-campus that irk them. In the neighboring rooms, conservative Christians and Muslim students who are offended by homosexuality and bacon are to receive help regarding those off-campus behaviors.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Forty Two » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:34 pm

“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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If the behavior is legal, it's not the university's biz to regulate off campus behavior
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:40 pm

Svartalf wrote:If the behavior is legal, it's not the university's biz to regulate off campus behavior
Not in today's USA....
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Forty Two » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:45 pm

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In the 2016 social justice conscious remake of National Lampoon's Animal House, the heroes are Dean Wormer and the Omega Theta Pi fraternity who drive off the hard-drinking, drug using, partiers of Delta Tau Chi. Delta Tau Chi has no place at Faber College campus, and the university follows through on its responsibility to stamp out such behavior, which are emblematic of their white privilege, which they refuse to check.

When the Delta "dudebros" lie to sorority women by falsely claiming that Otter dated their dead sorority sister in order to get them to go out on a date and hopefully have sex, they are reported to the diversity committee and expelled from Faber because they make sorority women feel unsafe.

Donald Sutherland's character, the pot-smoking Faber professor, will be fired and drummed off campus for having an open sexual relationship with a student. This is clearly rape, and part of rape culture, where a professor is using his position of power to obtain sexual gratification. The Karen Allen character, will, of course, in the modern Animal House be given plenty of counseling and psychological treatment to recover from the rape, which she didn't know happened because of the capitalist white patriarchy blinded her to the power dichotomy between her and the pot smoking professor.

Pinto is expelled and jailed for statutory rape of the daughter of Dean Wormer, of course, and spends years in prison, and rightfully so. Likewise, after the movie, Bluto never becomes a Senator, because he has to serve 15 years to life for the assault and abduction of Mandy Pepperidge. Rather than marry Bluto, she serves as witness for the prosecution and writes a book on the patriarchy.

Otter is saved from being jailed for assault and battery over the incident with the golf ball, when he hits the ROTC guy in the head, by virtue of the ROTC not being permitted on campus in the first place, because it is representative of the white, patriarchal, capitalist, military, and has no place on campus. Not to mention their bearing of arms, which terrifies college students who have a right to attend college without being made to feel unsafe by the presence of firearms. No ROTC means no opportunity for Otter and Boone to hit golfballs at them. Social Justice scores a victory.

Otter is, however, brought up on charges after his unacceptable conduct in the grocery store when he makes lewd suggestions to Dean Wormer's wife about the sensuality of certain vegetables. She then shows up obviously ravingly drunk and not in her right mind at the Delta House, and Otter takes advantage of her and has sex with her while drunk. As stated by feminist activists, having sex with a woman who is drunk is rape. He then spends years in prison, like Pinto and Bluto.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: College Students Engage in Lawful Behavior Off-Campus

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Forty Two wrote:
Svartalf wrote:If the behavior is legal, it's not the university's biz to regulate off campus behavior
Not in today's USA....
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Post by laklak » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:33 pm

Depends. What sort of agreements did the students sign when they enrolled? The courts could look at it as a contractual arrangement, which certainly could proscribe certain behaviors both on and off campus.

Besides, dudebroing of any description, no matter how slight, is grounds for immediate expulsion and 20 years in a reeducation camp.
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Post by Animavore » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:08 pm

You're gonna make click the link in the OP just to find out. Aren't you?
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Re: College Students Engage in Lawful Behavior Off-Campus

Post by JimC » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:18 am

There are 2 issues here, which people (as usual) will probably mix together... :roll:

1. Is there justifiable criticism of the student's actions?

Almost certainly - from what it sounds like, this had definite racist elements, and probably deserves to be condemned by all and sundry.

2. Should College authorities take action against the participants?

I would say no, but that does not preclude the authorities in asking future students to think whether such a party is morally justified.
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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:05 pm

JimC wrote:There are 2 issues here, which people (as usual) will probably mix together... :roll:

1. Is there justifiable criticism of the student's actions?

Almost certainly - from what it sounds like, this had definite racist elements, and probably deserves to be condemned by all and sundry.
A ghetto party. I mean, for the love of Pete.... it's just a party with a bit of a funny theme. Plenty of people of all races have lived in ghettos.
JimC wrote:
2. Should College authorities take action against the participants?

I would say no, but that does not preclude the authorities in asking future students to think whether such a party is morally justified.
The college authorities are only piping up about this because they need to be able to make a record that they have opposed racial/sexual activities that might be brought up in a Title IX or other equal education opportunity investigation. They want to be able to insulate the school from liability when someone sues saying that the other college students are limiting the student's ability to go to college free from racial discrimination.
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Re: College Students Engage in Lawful Behavior Off-Campus

Post by klr » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:05 am

Svartalf wrote:If the behavior is legal, it's not the university's biz to regulate off campus behavior
We have a similar dilemma, ever since our university banned any and all "rag week" activities on campus, as they had gotten well out of hand. Of course students can still get up to mischief off campus. But we can still point out to them the consequences of any wrongdoing, including them being suspended or expelled.
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Forty Two wrote:
JimC wrote:There are 2 issues here, which people (as usual) will probably mix together... :roll:

1. Is there justifiable criticism of the student's actions?

Almost certainly - from what it sounds like, this had definite racist elements, and probably deserves to be condemned by all and sundry.
A ghetto party. I mean, for the love of Pete.... it's just a party with a bit of a funny theme. Plenty of people of all races have lived in ghettos.

You're either deliberately overlooking the point that it was a bunch of snotnosed privileged little pricks who've never worked a day in their lives reveling in assertive racial insensitivity, or you're tone deaf.

But you're not tone deaf, you're just making a dog whistle argument. Cobra Kai got their roll checked. Tough shit.

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:10 am

Yeah. They were lucky that all that came of this was "extended evening hours talks". The university has a right to protect it's reputation by determining exactly who they allow to study and work at their institution.
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piscator wrote:But you're not tone deaf, you're just making a dog whistle argument. Cobra Kai got their roll checked. Tough shit.
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Re: College Students Engage in Lawful Behavior Off-Campus

Post by Svartalf » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:54 am

rachelbean wrote:
piscator wrote:But you're not tone deaf, you're just making a dog whistle argument. Cobra Kai got their roll checked. Tough shit.
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