The Thread of BREXIT

[rainbow]

Boris Johnson? Opportunist wanker? Yes/No?

I vote yes.

I see Boris as a kind of Donald Trump, without the style.

[Svartalf]

Boris? Of course he is, has there ever been a doubt?

[Rum]

Here until perhaps two years ago he was widely thought of as a buffoon. Through good PR he seems to have lost that image of late. If Cameron loses the referendum he'll have to go and its a shoe-in for Boris. His plan no doubt.

[Svartalf]

let's pray the referendum has UK stay among us, then... much as I despise Cameron, I feel johnson would be even worse.

[DaveDodo007]

Don't care, I want out the socialist bullshit that is the EU once and for all.

[rainbow]

Here until perhaps two years ago he was widely thought of as a buffoon. Through good PR he seems to have lost that image of late. If Cameron loses the referendum he'll have to go and its a shoe-in for Boris. His plan no doubt.

My chances of being PM are about as good as the chances of finding Elvis on Mars, or my being reincarnated as an olive.

Boris Johnson

Think on that when you drink a martini in 30 years time.

[rachelbean]

I hate being on the same side as Cameron but I think it will be a huge mistake to leave. I really don't even understand why it's gone to a referendum when the implications of such a choice are so far reaching. It scares me that by next year the UK will not be part of the EU and America will have a president Trump

[Svartalf]

At least you won't be in America to go through the Trump administration... and brexit is not yet a certitude. Live and see and don't worry too much.

[mistermack]

I think if Cameron loses the vote, he will stay on. And most of the party will prefer him to Boris.
After all, Cameron won the election. Boris has done fuck-all, except get elected Mayor of London, which only elevates him to the level of Ken Livingstone.

Would the country countenance a Prime Minister that they didn't vote for?
That's the problem of having fixed term parliaments.
Gordon Brown tried to "inherit" the title of Prime Minister, and it sank him.
If he'd called an election straight away, he'd have won, and served a full term.
Boris could go the same way, it could be a poisoned chalice.

[MrJonno]

I hate being on the same side as Cameron but I think it will be a huge mistake to leave. I really don't even understand why it's gone to a referendum when the implications of such a choice are so far reaching. It scares me that by next year the UK will not be part of the EU and America will have a president Trump

It's also almost certainly end of the UK if we leave with Scotland clearing off, imagine trying negotiate a trade deal with the EU while dealing with your own country splitting up. It's not exactly a position of strength

[Rum]

Yep. There are so many wrong things about leaving I can only assume the politicians who support the idea are idiots.

[Svartalf]

idiots, or supporters of American dependency who know which side their bread is buttered... even at the expense of the country.

[Brian Peacock]

I hate being on the same side as Cameron but I think it will be a huge mistake to leave. I really don't even understand why it's gone to a referendum when the implications of such a choice are so far reaching. It scares me that by next year the UK will not be part of the EU and America will have a president Trump

It's got this far because this has always been about serving anti-EU Tory backbenchers a deal to bolster the short-term appearance of party unity rather than anything like principles or ideals about the future of a Europe and Britain's place in or relationship with it. As we're seeing across the media at the moment, this is entirely a Tory circus.

[mistermack]

I'm all for being a member of a sane and sensible EU.
But the EU is going to loony shit.

Mrs Merkel invites a million migrants in, which anyone with a brain could see would snowball into far more than that number. Then she starts to lecture everybody else about taking "their share of the burden", a burden that her own stupid gob has created.

Now the whole of Europe is starting to wake up, far too late and far too slowly, to the mess that they are creating.

Some of the Balkans states are planning to rebel against the EU plan to IMPOSE migrant quotas on them. And the Shengen agreement is creaking and ready to fall.
And that's now. What's it going to be like in the summer, when the migrant flow becomes a flood?

Get some sanity back, and the EU might be worth staying in. But at the moment, we're better off out.

[Svartalf]

Funny, ad a European, I deem it's the UK that is neither sane nor sensible